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L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca says deputies would enforce marijuana laws even if Prop. 19 passes
LA Times blog ^ | 10/15/2010 | Staff

Posted on 10/17/2010 8:27:40 PM PDT by bornred

Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said Friday his deputies’ marijuana enforcement would not change even if Proposition 19, which would legalize the drug in California, passes Nov. 2.

“Proposition 19 is not going to pass, even if it passes,” Baca said in a news conference Friday at sheriff's headquarters in Monterey Park.

Baca, whose department polices three-fourths of the county, was bolstered Friday by an announcement from the Obama administration that federal officials would continue to “vigorously enforce” marijuana laws in California, even if state voters pass the measure.

Baca said the proposition was superseded by federal law and if passed, would be found unconstitutional.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2010; cainitiatives; leebaca; marijuana; prop19
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To: Paddy Irish
If you want to smoke up, change the law. change the law.

This is the third time you've implied I smoke pot. So you understand, I don't smoke tobacco, pot or cigars...Gave up cigars too because the price just kept going up and up.

So stop implying I smoke dope, or I will be more than happy to be like you and start baseless accusations, implying you're not only a habitual liar, but child molester. OK?

You don't seem to get the big picture here.

Americans have begged, voted, screamed, protested, and were called vigilantes by the last Republican president, when Americans had a belly full of the feds aiding and abetting this violent illegal invasion as the feds routinely failed to enforce federal laws. This is no secret.

Based on the above, how exactly do we get the feds to enforce laws when the federal government basically operates as dictatorship?

61 posted on 10/18/2010 10:17:14 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Paddy Irish
Or I should have said, based on the above, how exactly do we get the feds to enforce or *change* laws when the federal government basically operates as dictatorship?

Is this not clear to you?

62 posted on 10/18/2010 10:21:10 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Paddy Irish
Stop trying to go back door with medical marijuana or state laws.

In your opinion, which level of government should decide medical marijuana policies - state or federal?

What is the constitutional basis for your reasoning?

63 posted on 10/18/2010 10:24:00 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Carry_Okie
Just because Baca is trying to get ICE to cover some of his jail costs does not mean he is enforcing Federal Immigration law

Did you read the item? Baca isn't asking for funds, he is referring thousands illegal aliens for deportation. He has even done more ICE referrals than Sheriff Arpaio.

particularly because Los Angeles is a "sanctuary city."

What does that have to do with county Sheriff Baca? The City of Los Angeles is Chief Bratton and LAPD.

64 posted on 10/18/2010 10:48:38 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Ken H
In your opinion, which level of government should decide medical marijuana policies - state or federal?

So do you want Baca to stop referring illegal aliens to ICE for deportation?

65 posted on 10/18/2010 10:50:52 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Ken H

In my opinion, pot should be regulated similar to liquor. However there are thousands of federal laws that supersede state laws. If you can find a federal judge that says federal pot laws are unconstitutional, and it’s upheld, then OK. If Congress changes the law, then OK. Constitutional amendment, OK. But until then this medical marijuana movement is stupid. So is legalization at the state level. You guys are saying that since the feds are not enforcing immigration like they should, they should look the other way on reefer. That’s dumb


66 posted on 10/18/2010 11:04:23 AM PDT by Paddy Irish
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To: Mojave
Did you read the item? Baca isn't asking for funds, he is referring thousands illegal aliens for deportation. He has even done more ICE referrals than Sheriff Arpaio.

Only from his jail. Turning them over to ICE reduces his costs of incarceration and requires fewer of his deputies. He's not out picking up illegals and putting them up for deportation unless there is some other reason they come in. Baca is no Sheriff Joe.

What does that have to do with county Sheriff Baca? The City of Los Angeles is Chief Bratton and LAPD.

You know, perhaps you'd best get beyond a kindergarten argument here. I know who Bratton is, and where he had his last job. I lived in LA for several years.

67 posted on 10/18/2010 11:46:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Paddy Irish
In my opinion, pot should be regulated similar to liquor.

What is the constitutional basis for your opinion?

However there are thousands of federal laws that supersede state laws.

Yes, we are all aware of that. It is one of the reasons for Free Republic:

"A return to a strictly Constitutional form of federal government will automatically repeal and abolish all unconstitutional federal involvement in states issues such as: crime, health, education, welfare and the environment. The Tenth Amendment will again be in effect, which will bar all federal attempts at legislating social issues."

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But until then this medical marijuana movement is stupid. So is legalization at the state level.

Do you say the same about state efforts to assert their 10th Amendment powers in other areas such as resistance to federal gun laws and Obamacare?

You guys are saying that since the feds are not enforcing immigration like they should, they should look the other way on reefer.

I made no such argument. Immigration is an enumerated federal power. State laws that contradict federal immigration laws are repugnant to the Constitution, IMO.

68 posted on 10/18/2010 12:04:00 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: bornred

It doesn’t matter. USSC already ruled that Congress can ban the home growing of Marijuana. The USSC cited the commerce clause to come to that decision. We can all agree that the logic is flawed, that it is impossible to effect the commerce of something that isn’t allowed to be sold or traded.

Though if someone smokes MJ instead of taking a Xanax tablet you could argue that it did effect the interstate commerce of Xanax. However I don’t think the government argued that. They argued that it effected the interstate commerce of marijuana. Even though it is an illegal trade. Bizarre and ludicrous but there it is.


69 posted on 10/18/2010 12:29:22 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Ken H

Keep and bear arms is in the Constitution. Where does it say anything about dope in the Constituion? Bad example. If the prohibition on Marijuana is wrong, right that wrong. Medical marijuana does not right that wrong, neither does a state amendment.


70 posted on 10/18/2010 12:41:52 PM PDT by Paddy Irish
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To: Ken H

I’m not a big fan of the income tax, so I get the small county I live in to outlaw the federal income tax. That’s what you guys are trying to do with reefer laws and medical marijuana. Admit it! You are trying to go around the law.


71 posted on 10/18/2010 12:46:34 PM PDT by Paddy Irish
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To: Carry_Okie
He's not out picking up illegals and putting them up for deportation unless there is some other reason they come in.

1. So what?

2. How could he?

72 posted on 10/18/2010 12:53:56 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I lived in LA for several years.

Then your inability to distinguish between the city and the county is strange, to say the least.

73 posted on 10/18/2010 12:55:53 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Paddy Irish
If the prohibition on Marijuana is wrong, right that wrong.

How many times must you be told? How do you do that when the Federal government is operated like a dictatorship?

Over the past 25 years, Americans have voted for, protested, screamed, and begged for relief from this violent, epic illegal invasion of our country, while the feds force legitimate Americans to pay for this.

We have attempted to right this wrong, thousands of times for many years.

Did you not notice the federal government operates like a dictatorship?

Do you live in an isolated remote cave?

74 posted on 10/18/2010 1:00:17 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Czar

Mark for later.


75 posted on 10/18/2010 1:01:08 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: born2bfree

“In my state of Idaho we just had laws go into effect that if a firearm is made in Idaho and stays in Idaho the Federal Government has no authority over it. We are still waiting on the challenges in court.”

My guess: If any of the compenent parts (even the steel) come from outside Idaho, the Feds will have a way in.


76 posted on 10/18/2010 1:04:46 PM PDT by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

They still acted under State Law. That is the genesis of their authority.


77 posted on 10/18/2010 1:24:56 PM PDT by politicalmerc (I can see November from my house; can you?)
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To: dragnet2

Well in that case buddy, get down in your bunker and shoot the first SOB that tries to server you an eviction notice. You’re a nut, get your foil hat on.


78 posted on 10/18/2010 3:21:11 PM PDT by Paddy Irish
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To: Paddy Irish
Keep and bear arms is in the Constitution.

That hasn't stopped fedgov from using the Commerce Clause to impose a national prohibition on certain types of weapons. Do you think that is in keeping with the original understanding of the Commerce Clause... yes or no?

Where does it say anything about dope in the Constituion?

It doesn't. Which means the states, rather than the feds, should determine intrastate marijuana policies. Do you agree or disagree? And please state the constitutional basis for your answer. (you keep ignoring that part)

79 posted on 10/18/2010 3:32:44 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Paddy Irish

And your an a$$hole that clearly can’t handle the brutal truth.


80 posted on 10/18/2010 3:39:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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