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(Michele) Bachmann requested federal stimulus money for district projects
twincities.com ^ | Jason Hoppin

Posted on 10/19/2010 6:51:19 AM PDT by ejdrapes

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To: Gipper08

Is it a boondoggle along the lines of a Big Dig scale?


51 posted on 10/19/2010 8:15:54 AM PDT by princeofdarkness (The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I stand some what corrected in that NONE of her requests were funded. So thereby we will never know if the projects would have had the intended results.


52 posted on 10/19/2010 8:16:20 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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To: Walts Ice Pick

Northstar Running An Operating Deficit of More Than $1 Million a Month
Good Deal for Riders Leads to $7.5 Million Subsidy So Far This Year
http://freedomfoundationofminnesota.com/northstar-running-an-operating-deficit-of-more-than-1-million-a-month


53 posted on 10/19/2010 8:16:56 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: EBH
So shouldn't we be asking if the money she grabbed went to boondoggles in her state or did the stimulus funds generate the intended results. Jobs, wealth, income?

Couldn't all the other congressmen who accepted stimulus funds make the same claims? And suppose she could show that it did generate the intended results, then doesn't she have to admit that the stimulus was a success? At least where she was concerned?

54 posted on 10/19/2010 8:17:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

She is not saying one thing and doing another. She is saying that we should not have passed the stimulus, and should never pass another. But, to turn up your nose at the money that has already been taken by force of law from your constituents, and is being passed back out, would be just stupid, not principled.


55 posted on 10/19/2010 8:17:55 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: MEGoody

Uh...this ain’t going to children folks(even if it was I would be opposed)...this money is going to Bachman’s special interests...these projects OBVIOUSLY are not worthy or the state or local would have already funded them.

One it is corrupt and two it is illegal she does NOT have the authority to do this. period.

Would my children be upset if I spent their inheritance (and freedom) on a worthless metro rail???


56 posted on 10/19/2010 8:18:08 AM PDT by Gipper08 (a real conservative for Congress... travishankins.com)
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To: ejdrapes

So?


57 posted on 10/19/2010 8:18:25 AM PDT by sport
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58 posted on 10/19/2010 8:19:16 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: SoFloFreeper
and all Michelle has to say is, “Yeah, I got some of it—better it go toward a commuter rail in Minnesota

Read the whole article. She didn't get any of it. All her requests went unfunded.

59 posted on 10/19/2010 8:19:20 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

There has to be a national defense aspect to Northstar or she wouldn’t have asked for the funds.


60 posted on 10/19/2010 8:19:48 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: princeofdarkness
Doubt it but I don't care if Bachman request a quarter to bail out a lemonade stand she does not have the authority to redistribute our wealth from all to a few even if it was a quarter.
61 posted on 10/19/2010 8:20:18 AM PDT by Gipper08 (a real conservative for Congress... travishankins.com)
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To: lady lawyer
She is saying that we should not have passed the stimulus, and should never pass another.

And if they did pass another stimulus then Bachmann would be there again with her hand out. As she would with a third or a fourth. She wants to have her cake and eat it too.

62 posted on 10/19/2010 8:20:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: Gipper08

The funds were requested, none were funded.

Read the whole article all the way to the bottom.

The State was denied the funds.

They will fund pig stench projects and bridges to nowhere, but not projects in Bachman’s State?


63 posted on 10/19/2010 8:21:42 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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To: Walts Ice Pick

if getting to Twins games is critical to national defense, then yes.

NORTHSTAR RAIL IS A MONEY SUCK

First, the Star Tribune reported this that Northstar has missed its ridership projections and is running about 3% below what was expected.
http://www.startribune.com/local/north/102670934.html
While missing the target by 3% may not seem to be an issue, the problem becomes apparent when weekday commuter riders are compared to weekend leisure riders heading down to Target Field to take in a Twins game.
It turns out that there are nearly as many people taking the train to see a game as there are taking the train into Minneapolis for work each day.
Take this past July, for example. That month, the average daily commuter ridership was 2,530. On a Saturday when the Twins were playing at home, average leisure ridership was 2,373.
So, there nearly as many people taking the train to catch a game as there are taking the train to work on a weekday.
Remember when the $317 million train was sold to the taxpayers as a transportation option for commuters? It turns out that an argument can be made that Northstar is little more than a taxpayer-subsidized tool catering to baseball fans looking for a ride to a taxpayer-subsidized baseball yard.
Perhaps the most shocking and disappointing statistic is that taxpayers subsidize a whopping 83% of the cost of every Northstar ride, while the rider only covers 17% (called the “fare box recovery”).
It breaks down like this:
Each one-way trip costs on average $22.37
Each rider pays an average one-way trip cost of $3.74
The taxpayers pony up the difference for each and every trip.
Through July 31st, taxpayers have subsidized Northstar’s operations to the tune of over $7.5 million!


64 posted on 10/19/2010 8:24:20 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Couldn't all the other congressmen who accepted stimulus funds make the same claims? And suppose she could show that it did generate the intended results, then doesn't she have to admit that the stimulus was a success? At least where she was concerned?

And this scares you how? If the projects produced results while democrat projects failed...her wisdom of how to appropriately manage the public funds would be apparent. But, since they were denied funding...for many public projects like bridges and roads...I guess we'll never know.

65 posted on 10/19/2010 8:26:01 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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To: princeofdarkness

I don’t think anything is as big a turd as the Big Pig.

Look, she’s my Congresscritter.I like her. I’ve met her and contributed.But she can error, too. Being right most of the time is better than most of our critters.

Northstar IS a money suck.


66 posted on 10/19/2010 8:28:55 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
During a national security crisis, it may be necessary to evacuate people to the stadium. Or, maybe it will become necessary to quickly move private militia patriots to resist Federal oppression.

She would never have supported the project if she didn't feel it was vital to our best interests as a people.

67 posted on 10/19/2010 8:33:07 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Walts Ice Pick

If Northstar can be construed as national security, supporters pimping rail would have claimed it here...not even Willie Green would attempt that stretch.

It would be cheaper to issue us all Humvees,gasmasks and Faraday cages in Anoka county .


68 posted on 10/19/2010 8:39:01 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Non-Sequitur

If you think the projects she requested are not wise expendatures of money, vote against her.


69 posted on 10/19/2010 8:41:25 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: ejdrapes
There's nothing hypocritical at all about playing the game by the new rules; the hypocrite is the one who changes the rules to benefit himself, and then complains when others play by them, too. Dems do the latter all the time.

It's like someone taking Social Security although he opposes it in principle. If you don't take what your taxes have already paid for, you are placing yourself at a disadvantage, and may be a fool. This is just another liberal smokescreen.

70 posted on 10/19/2010 10:26:33 AM PDT by Hunton Peck ("Pork: The Other White Meat!" De facto motto of the late Robert Byrd)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
If you think the projects she requested are not wise expendatures of money, vote against her.

I don't live in her district and I'm not a recipient of her pork so all I can do is point out her hypocrisy. As I would also do for my own Congressman if he condemned the stimulus and then put in for stimulus money. But Moore was solidly in favor of the whole thing.

71 posted on 10/19/2010 10:27:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Do you take tax deductions?


72 posted on 10/19/2010 10:37:30 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Non-Sequitur

I’ve explained it numerous times. She would not want another stimulus. She wants Minnesota money to stay in Minnesota, not to be confiscated by the federal government and then — maybe — handed back to Minnesotans at the pleasure of he feds. But, once the confiscation takes place and there’s nothing she can do about it, what possible point is there in standing on “principle,” and not trying to get it back to its rightful owners? To do otherwise is to say, “Well, alright. Take Minnesota’s money and redistribute it somewhere else.” That is not principled, it is stupid.


73 posted on 10/19/2010 10:40:47 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Good question!


74 posted on 10/19/2010 10:44:08 AM PDT by ejdrapes (I like leaders that don't need teleprompters or notes written on their hand....)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Do you take tax deductions?

I do. But I don't take them and then complain that they should be done away with.

75 posted on 10/19/2010 10:49:14 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I bet you are in favor of the flat tax or the FAIR tax, though, aren’t you?


76 posted on 10/19/2010 10:54:28 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I bet you are in favor of the flat tax or the FAIR tax, though, aren’t you?

I'm in favor of a fairer, more effective tax. I find the idea of the flat tax interesting, but most of the flat tax proposals and the FAIR tax seem unworkable to me. So I'd have to see a concrete proposal before I'd sign on to either one.

77 posted on 10/19/2010 11:02:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: lady lawyer
She would not want another stimulus.

But if one were passed she'd also be there with her hand out.

That is not principled, it is stupid.

No, it's hypocritical. If I say I am against abortion but pay for my daughter to get one then I'm a hypocrite. Obama claims he's for a balanced budgt, but blows it all out of proportion; he's a hypocrite. Bachmann claims the stimulus is evil and claims her opponent would have voted for it all the while taking stimulus money; she's a hypocrite as well.

78 posted on 10/19/2010 11:07:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: ejdrapes

I don’t believe this for a moment. She is not an idiot. She did not take one dime of this money. She is a principled person not like idiots who voted against this and then accept the welfare.....SHE WOULD NEVER DO THIS. This is a slam against her because she is conservative.


79 posted on 10/19/2010 11:26:16 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Non-Sequitur

One of the prime components of all of those taxes is the removal of tax deductions.

But as long as tax deductions are legal, you will take them, right?

Even as you hope for a system that doesn’t have them?

Not hypocrisy (an often misused word), but living in reality.

Bachmann holding her breath and stomping her feet after the vote wasn’t going to save one penny of taxpayer money. She took the deductions even as she works to get rid of them.


80 posted on 10/19/2010 12:44:15 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: napscoordinator

She did request funds after the bill was passed. There was no sense in not requesting funds for projects after that fact. She voted against the money, but since it was spent, she decided she should try to spend it on things that would help her district.

Don’t watch sausage being made.


81 posted on 10/19/2010 12:47:16 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Don’t worry....this is just a hit story against a great politician.


82 posted on 10/19/2010 12:49:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ejdrapes
This is a hit piece by a left-wing organization about written requests for funding by the congresswoman, none of which were approved, and all of which would have added up to a drop of rain in the ocean compared with the Federal budget.

Get used to more crap like this from the Soros Smear Center (and, yes - this one has ties to Soros through the Huffington Post, and also Progressive funders such as the Pew Charitable Trusts and the Joyce Foundation).

They will target whoever they fear, and they fear Michelle Bachmann.

83 posted on 10/19/2010 12:59:40 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Gipper08
Uh...this ain’t going to children folks(even if it was I would be opposed).

Depending on the project for which the money was obtained, children can benefit.

these projects OBVIOUSLY are not worthy or the state or local would have already funded them.

Not necessarily. Many states are having difficulty making ends meet as well, so they are slashing budgets (or raising taxes). Even if they aren't "worthy" according to you or me, I can understand Bachman's thinking. She stood against it, but she lost that battle. The money is going to be spent anyway, whether she gets any for her area or not. And her constituents are going to be footing the bill whether they take any of it or not. Might as well get some of their dollars back into the local community.

I'm torn. I certainly didn't want it passed. Now that it has passed, I don't think I want to pay for it without getting some of it back.

84 posted on 10/19/2010 2:26:11 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Gipper08

“...yeah...you are not conservative..”

Or perhaps you are not intelligent.


85 posted on 10/19/2010 3:25:44 PM PDT by moonhawk (Just blow the flippin' thing up...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“..Then don’t condemn the program and criticize those who supported it if you’ve got your nose in the trough along side them...”

I condemn Social Security as an unsustainable Ponzi scheme. Michelle Bachmann condemned the stimulus program.

They forced me to pay into SS anyway. Congress passed the stimulus over Michelle’s objections.

By your reasoning should I not accept my SS checks?


86 posted on 10/19/2010 3:46:45 PM PDT by moonhawk ( To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.)
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To: moonhawk
By your reasoning should I not accept my SS checks?

By your reasoning.

87 posted on 10/19/2010 6:48:21 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: moonhawk

Exactly. I cannot believe anyone with common sense would complain about this.


88 posted on 10/19/2010 6:53:09 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Non-Sequitur

By MY reasoning? How so?

There’s your non-sequitur right there.


89 posted on 10/19/2010 9:37:05 PM PDT by moonhawk ( To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.)
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