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No 'Christian' roommate for churchgoer- Complaint filed with Fair Housing Center
WOOD TV ^ | 10/21/10

Posted on 10/21/2010 6:33:45 PM PDT by earlJam

No 'Christian' roommate for churchgoer Complaint filed with Fair Housing Center

Updated: Thursday, 21 Oct 2010, 5:51 PM EDT Published : Thursday, 21 Oct 2010, 5:51 PM EDT

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - The Fair Housing Center of West Michigan filed a housing discrimination charge against a Grand Rapids woman who advertised for a Christian roommate on her church bulletin board.

The 31-year-old woman's attorney, who works for the Alliance Defense Fund , said this is a blatant violation of her First Amendment right to freely associate.

But Nancy Haynes of the Fair Housing Center told 24 Hour News 8 the woman has every right to seek and live with a Christian roommate -- but advertising for it publicly, even on a church bulletin board, violates federal law.

"She can be a Christian and she can even use that as a criteria for who she wants to rent to. She just can't state that. Because to state that is a violation of the Fair Housing Act," she said. "There are certain exceptions that apply. She can actually, in practice, not rent to a non-Christian. But she can't make the statement. The statement alone is a violation of the act. What she can do in practice she can't make a statement about."

Haynes said the Fair Housing Center began investigating after someone in the congregation, who was offended, filed a complaint.

The center then filed a complaint with the Michigan Department of Civil Rights , and the action is administrative, not criminal. The center asks for a response to try and negotiate a settlement. If they can't, it's possible that the Michigan Department of Civil Rights would determine if a violation happened and perhaps recommend a hearing.

The Alliance Defense Fund sent a letter seeking dismissal of this complaint to the Michigan Department of Civil Rights, but there has not yet been a response.

"I found (the woman and her attorney's) response very offensive. We're not punishing her for being Christian at all. If you're in the business of renting, it's a business transaction that's held to a standard under federal, state and local law."

The state wants the woman to get training in federal law, and reimburse the Fair Housing Center $300 for the time it took them to investigate.


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To: JMS

Well, I’m getting flak right now on one of my friend’s facebook wall. It’s one of HIS friends who claims to be an ordained deacon in the Presybterian Church and also on his page claims to be a LEFTY and judging by his problems with my beliefs about Christ, he really is a lefty.

As the saying goes, being in a bakery does not make you a bagel.


21 posted on 10/21/2010 6:49:15 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: w1andsodidwe
Time to start shouting "Separation of church and state."

Absolutely. As the Bearded Marxist says, we need to defend the First Amendment as written.

22 posted on 10/21/2010 6:50:00 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Shelayne

Can “re-education” camps be far behind?


23 posted on 10/21/2010 6:50:23 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: JMS

Must be an Episcopalian or Methodist church...they would be offended.


24 posted on 10/21/2010 6:51:25 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: earlJam

Wow. Where I come from (never mind where), you’re allowed a great deal more latitude about picking a person to LIVE with. Business arrangement or not, a roommate or a tenant in the house you occupy is just a whole different thing than a tenant not under your own roof.
Unbelievable. What’s happened to America?


25 posted on 10/21/2010 6:52:44 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( A window seat, a jug of elderberry wine, and thou.)
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To: earlJam

Is being a bureaucrat at the “Fair Housing Center” considered a job? Is it one of the “shovel-ready” jobs our leader created for us?


26 posted on 10/21/2010 6:53:34 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: earlJam

I’d tell these government screws to blow it out their a** so fast it would make their heads spin. Let them throw me in prison for this... please!


27 posted on 10/21/2010 6:54:38 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

You CAN discriminate...you just can’t SAY you are discriminating...yeah, stupid, isn’t it...magritte


28 posted on 10/21/2010 6:58:00 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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For the record:

http://www.indianroommates.in/Detroit

http://www.usaindian.net/usa-indian/Indian-roommate-finder-search-USA.asp


29 posted on 10/21/2010 6:58:41 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: JMS
Who was this masked offended person? Must we live in constant fear of offending someone? Will there be a lawyer behind everyone who is offended?

We are really a whacked society....

30 posted on 10/21/2010 6:59:00 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
We knew a young man years ago who wanted a third roommate for his quite large apartment (he was a student and stowed a motorcycle in the living room).

So, he contacted the business office at the WarshPost and said he preferred a student.

The Post ran the want ad ~ it said "STUD PREFERRED".

Half the gay blades in DC called checking on the availability of that rental.

31 posted on 10/21/2010 7:01:23 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: tuckrdout
From the story:

"the Fair Housing Center began investigating after someone in the congregation, who was offended, filed a complaint."

32 posted on 10/21/2010 7:01:27 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: earlJam
Do you think when Shakespeare wrote - "First kill all the lawyers!" - he might have meant Congress?

(sarcasm)

33 posted on 10/21/2010 7:03:15 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
"Maybe someone should check the local mosque’s bulletin board and make sure no one is advertising for a muslim roommate"

Oh, but that would be different.

34 posted on 10/21/2010 7:04:20 PM PDT by cookcounty (Dec 31st is coming: .....Stop Bark-bark Obama's Midnight Jack-Up!)
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To: earlJam
We were wandering around a little tourist town off the Mohawk trail in MA, and came across this on the local street-side bulletin board:

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"Wanted: warm, fuzzy lesbian roommate."

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I'll bet no one filed a "Fair Housing Act" complaint on that one...

35 posted on 10/21/2010 7:06:42 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: earlJam

so at what point can you not request a male/female roommate? It seems even requesting a roommate discrimnates against those of us who don’t want a roommate.........


36 posted on 10/21/2010 7:07:55 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: earlJam
Haynes said the Fair Housing Center began investigating after someone in the congregation, who was offended, filed a complaint.

Does anyone believe this? I don't. I think that someone with an agenda was actively trolling through various churches and looking at bulletin boards specifically to find cases like this.

It might have been an atheist activist looking for anything actionable, it might have been a homosexual activist who would have then attempted to find out if the woman discriminates against lesbians, or it might have even been someone associated with the "Fair Housing Center" (snort) who was looking for a chump they could spring their crap on and thus justify their tax-sucking existence.

What I would be willing to bet megabucks on is that it was NOT a regularly attending member of that church's congregation and that the "Fair Housing Center" will fight to the death to avoid revealing who made the complaint. Further, I would go so far as to say I bet there are a LOT of complaints submitted by that person.

37 posted on 10/21/2010 7:07:55 PM PDT by Ronin (If he were not so gruesomely incompetent and dangerous, Obama would just be silly.)
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To: earlJam
…advertising for it publicly, even on a church bulletin board, violates federal law.

Which clause of the Constitution gave Congress the right to regulate advertisements for roommates? If, then, it is not authorized by the Constitution then it is no more a law than one I would write and post on the internet. It is time, indeed past time, that we challenge the overreaching of Congress.

38 posted on 10/21/2010 7:11:18 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: w1andsodidwe
Time to start shouting "Separation of church and state." Get the federal government out of the church

I agree. In fact we need to take back that language which was intended to protect those of faith. Our side should more strongly educate the masses as to what separation of church and state is really all about.

39 posted on 10/21/2010 7:11:24 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: earlJam

Couldn’t she just state that her roommate must “conform to normal Christian behavior?” I would think that would solve the problem.


40 posted on 10/21/2010 7:12:15 PM PDT by oldleft
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