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To: justlurking
Without consulting the passengers in his minivan — "there was no time to take a vote" — Innes kicked into engineer mode.

I'm glad everything worked out, but I might question whether he had the right to risk other people's lives to make a hero of himself.

2 posted on 10/22/2010 9:15:43 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

They were his kids, they don’t always get a vote.


6 posted on 10/22/2010 9:23:25 AM PDT by fml
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Maybe but this kind of changes things: He knew a busy intersection was just ahead,
9 posted on 10/22/2010 9:28:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"I'm glad everything worked out, but I might question whether he had the right to risk other people's lives to make a hero of himself."

Given the known physics of what he was doing there really wasn't a risk.

10 posted on 10/22/2010 9:30:05 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I'm glad everything worked out, but I might question whether he had the right to risk other people's lives to make a hero of himself.

Basic physics. If the other vehicle was doing 40 mph and he was doing 35, the relative velocity is 5 mph. The relative velocity doesn't provide enough energy or momentum to kill; it's not even going to scratch his kids. After that, he's braking for both of them, and again it isn't going to kill anyone, since there is no further significant impact. He thought fast, he thought accurately, and he saved the lives of strangers without risking his own kids, just involving them with an up close view of doing the right thing. Personally, I think that's the best thing a parent can do for his kids.

11 posted on 10/22/2010 9:32:24 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Valid point, but unrealistic under those circumstances. I doubt many who risk their lives like this consider a cost benefit analysis before reacting. Probably a good thing, too.

I doubt if he even considered anything other than trying to end the situation with minimal damage and loss of life. I also would be willing to bet a cup of overpriced Seattle coffee the thought of being a “hero” never once crossed the gentleman’s mind. The way I see it, the situation and how a human reacts is what determines a hero, not the other way around.

I’m certainly glad this came to a good end.


12 posted on 10/22/2010 9:32:26 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Sounds like his quick thinking was the right decision to avoid certain tragedy given the intersection coming up. Not sure why you accused him of trying to be a hero.

Most people would have simply rubbernecked while being paralyzed at the same time, thinking about a liability backlash.


15 posted on 10/22/2010 9:34:05 AM PDT by motoman
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Some do, and others think about it. gotta love professionals in whatever craft they deal in.


16 posted on 10/22/2010 9:35:29 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I’m glad everything worked out, but I might question whether he had the right to risk other people’s lives to make a hero of himself.
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“there was no time to take a vote”


17 posted on 10/22/2010 9:35:47 AM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Oh for the love of Christ!

Get a life, FRiend!


18 posted on 10/22/2010 9:37:18 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
make a hero of himself

Are you only motivated by the opportunity for notoriety?

25 posted on 10/22/2010 9:44:34 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (War does not determine who is right -- only who is left.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"...I might question whether he had the right to risk other people's lives to make a hero of himself."

It doesn't sound like he did it "to make a hero of himself." I suspect his motivations were otherwise.

27 posted on 10/22/2010 9:46:28 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Really? Would it have been o’k to risk his own life even if it meant his kids could end up fatherless? Every risk can end up in loss that is why it is called risk. The bigger risk was Daddy doing nothing and letting the kids know its all about them even if it resulted in the death of others.
28 posted on 10/22/2010 9:46:47 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Really? Would it have been o’k to risk his own life even if it meant his kids could end up fatherless? Every risk can end up in loss that is why it is called risk. The bigger risk was Daddy doing nothing and letting the kids know its all about them even if it resulted in the death of others.
29 posted on 10/22/2010 9:47:10 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I'm glad everything worked out, but I might question whether he had the right to risk other people's lives to make a hero of himself.

A crash at a busy intersection would have been a disaster and could have resulted in the injury/deaths of even more people. He made the right choice.


33 posted on 10/22/2010 9:58:15 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Today, Congress. Tomorrow, the White House!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
kicked into engineer mode.

The self-infatuation of engineers is unfailing. They almost make lawyers look like normal people in comparison.

52 posted on 10/22/2010 1:09:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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