Posted on 10/26/2010 8:34:04 AM PDT by fabrizio
Up front, I am not a Catholic. Nevertheless, I am very glad the Pope made this statement. Sadly, I think it will have as little effect on the American Bishops as the Catholic doctrines on abortion.
Obama: “The Pope has no say in American affairs.”
Even though he’s right on this he’s still just a Pope and not a grantor of (nor dictator of) rights.
This is for those FReepers who claim that B16 is pro-illegal immigrations.
Ping
....At the same time, States have the right to regulate migration flows and to defend their own frontiers, always guaranteeing the respect due to the dignity of each and every human person. Immigrants, moreover, have the duty to integrate into the host Country, respecting its laws and its national identity....
Does that mean that the Roman Catholic Church will support our right to defend and preserve our Euro-American culture (via returning to a more sane immigration policy rather than the free-for-all we have now, and moving back toward assimilation of immigrants rather than multiculturalism), provided we respect other countries and their cultures?
Does that mean that they will defend our right to expel muslims and La Raza types who refuse to integrate, and who work tirelessly to conquer all or part of our country? And to deport all illegals?
which he has never claimed to be. The whole point of the Catholic doctrine of the temporal order is that there are certain rights, duties and principles that transcend our volatile convictions and majorities. If you can put your anti-catholicism aside for a moment, when your favorite politicians or thinker says that citizens have certain rights, is such politician or thinker speaking as a grantor or “dictator” of said rights or is he just reminding a fact to his listeners/readers?
Those who hate and slander the Church will continue to hate and slander the Church regardless of the facts.
This is true, but many other people read the posts on Anti-immigration threads and look down on B16.
Now we have a reference.
This once again makes me extremely glad that Benedictus XVI is our Holy Father. But will certain bishops get the message? Somehow I doubt it.
Here, here!
Bookmark.
The problem has never been Benedict. The problem is same as always, with the USCCB. So, get your own bishops straight, and you won’t have these problems.
CCC 2241: Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.
If you can put your anti-catholicism aside for a moment,Your knee jerk name calling aside, what I am is irrelevant to this discussion
when your favorite politicians or thinker says that citizens have certain rights,I don't have a "favorite politician" and I am my favorite thinker, thank you.
is such politician or thinker speaking as a grantor or dictator of said rightsMost times, yes.
When the next Pope comes along and contradicts the previous Pope who will be the grantor or dictator of your rights then?
You mean, just THE Pope.No I meant A Pope.
Love it!
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