Posted on 10/27/2010 7:23:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
That is pretty good post and I got you, I’m not sure how that fits in with the difference between the American Jewish vote, and the Orthodox conservative vote, or the Israeli-dual citizen absentee vote that is clearly decided by what is useful to the foreign country called Israel rather than Tikkun in America.
I used to subscribe to Tikkun magazine by the way, but not for long.
That's a subject that's way over my head.
I have. They claim they don't want the Christian Right to have too much power. They believe in liberalism.
It's not complicated just unpleasant.
Had the Nazis not done what they did to Jews folks would be more vocal about it. But we all just sorta soft pedal what is open war towards traditional culture here from many....minorities other than Jews btw
and frankly I am not sure how to handle that...are we going to just be polite forever?
What's the connection between the two sentences?
It's also funny: I live all my life as a Jew and have never ever met another Jew who would "despise the name of Christ." Does not look like you know what you are talking about.
"God sent them a King, and they rejected him."
What's the connection with the topic? Or are you venting your own dislike of the Jews?
At least invent some new reasons for doing so. It still does not occur to you that those living today are separated from the times of Christ by two millennia. DO you want me to list some of the Christians' and Church's deeds over the last two millennia?
What a pure Christian soul you have, grandma.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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For what the thread is worth, which isn't much.
I imagine I will be for about the next 15-20 yrs, then I’ll probably be dead. Life is full of both pleasant and unpleasant situations.
Wonder why Jews will never fully trust anything related to the "cross?" Because throughout its history, it has been a sign/symbol of persecution and death. Now we have a new batch NT followers that say "trust us" as their forefathers did. Why should we?
Exactly...Church biblical fads are a fickle thing. It is currently "in" to support Israel among the evangelical crowd but for how long? Oh and thanks for the kind comments.
So long as there is a modern nation of Israel to support, evangelicals will not abandon it. It's that Biblical literalist thing. Nothing fickle about it.
Prior to 1948, it was not uniformly true. Various strains of belief, some clinging to "replacement theology" justified antisemitism on that basis. Some still do today, but these are not the evangelicals of whom you speak and who you disparage.
Fulfillment of prophecy is taken seriously, as is the directive to support the nation that is the fulfillment of prophecy. Then, there's the "curse" for not doing so. Not something a Biblical literalist is going to chance, taking it literally and all.
It's really not that hard to decipher, honestly. You don't even have to subscribe to the belief in order to grasp it.
The truth is that most “jews” do not know who THEY are and most Christians do not know what “jews” are, and yet they ALL presume to speak as experts on the subject.
If the real truth was to be told, they would all deny it anyway, so what is the use of trying to explain what they already think they know?
In a sidebar of this situation take a look at this article and video
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2010/10/persian-anti-jimmy-carter-protest.html
My sister in law voted for odumbo and she’s from Long Island, has many Jewish friends. I asked her why. She said because they care more about social issues than economic issues. Particularly gay rights and abortion. I have no clue if this is correct, but most of her life her close friends have been Jewish.
Interesting! Good post.
Oh wow. I stand corrected. Sorry!
How do you explain Bibi and the emerging Tea Party in Israel?
I have spent some time over the past 35 years trying to understand this issue. Long before this current mess here in the U.S. Even read Hannah Arendt’s “Origins of Totalitarianism” hoping to understand how the late 1930’s happened for the European Jews. Still I failed to understand why.
So we are here where we are today again.
I have many times over the past 35 years. Still have not received an "explanation" that fits.
Saul David Alinsky?
Israel is a foreign country.
Much of the 2 per cent is concentrated in NY state, Connecticut, and New Jersey and they vote in numbers to swing the electoral votes into the Democrats camp. That’s why there is such “obsession” with this population.
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