To: SuziQ
We have a very unique situation this winter. We were getting colder due to less solar activity, then the El Nino occurred last winter. That gave us a short term break from the cold that manifested itself in some areas of the US this summer. The increased water vapor last winter also helped to create the historic snow falls. But an El Nino gives you short term warming due to increases in water vapor and long term cooling due to decreasing the heat content within the deep Pacific Ocean. So the short term atmospheric heat from EL Nino is disappearing and being replaced by the underlying solar cooling trend. Add to this a strong La Nina and Moderately Strong PDO and we have a very unique situation. This first winter storm of the season might be an indicator for what is to come. Perhaps it was just the changing of the guard where Old Man Winter replaces Young Lady Summer.
To: justa-hairyape; Ernest_at_the_Beach
JAHA. I second your post to SuziQ. La Nina and the strong PDO taking place plus changes in earth's orbit relative to the sun and a number of other factors that are brought into play by the external sources are going to give us a twenty year plus cooling cycle. And it is going to get brutal at times some years. Hell. Europe, Scotland Eurasia are already seeing snows and plummeting temperatures. Believe they had quite a drop in Norway a few days back. We add in the ADO and changes to the gulf stream etc., and things are going to cool down mostly everywhere. This past winter in South America should be a wake up call to everyone as well as the second week in Australia's summer the past where they had a few inches of snow falling in the low mountain ranges not to far north of Melborne .
The list can go on, but just mentioning a few things that support your statement.
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10/27/2010 7:42:32 PM PDT by
Marine_Uncle
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