[Shethink13]

I think it’s counter-productive to good order and discipline. Thanks for asking.

And did you express this view and the thinking behind it to your son, or did you just acquiesce to his apathy?

I experience the apathy as you do. I have 5 children ages 18 to 28. When I hear the "live and let live" tripe I make sure to remind them why it does matter.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

amen that