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'I blame Karl Rove'
STG News ^ | 11/3/10 | William Way, Jr.

Posted on 11/04/2010 4:30:30 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

There is a singular event that shoved the Republican Senate car over the cliff.

That event was the primary victory of Christine O'Donnell. This morning she used a phrase that is right on the money. That description is "Republican Cannibalism."

I personally hold Karl Rove to blame, followed closely by Senator John Cornyn. Rove is an establishment Progressive Republican of the first order.

Following O'Donnell's message of values victory in Delaware, Rove started slinging mud in her direction because he realized she was a woman that couldn't be bought & sold on a D.C. street corner.

It was Rove who almost exclusively undermined an untested Republican. When challenged, he became entrenched, making it a media story.

Coming out of a surprise primary victory, everyone would obviously be questioning O’Donnell’s candidacy.

It's the "Man Bites Dog" story. Rove turned an opportunity to help create an up-and-coming political star into much less.

The bottom feeder Rove chose for his personal aggrandizement to put blood in the water. The sharks had a feeding frenzy.

The result was that yet another "Traditional Values Candidate" was beaten by her own political party, & the momentum of several other races was slowed.

It gave Reid & others the chance to further paint traditional values candidates as kooks. The Republican cannibalism resulted in the Senate leadership failure to get behind Republican nominees.

The cannibalism by a self-professed REPUBLICAN strategist, wrapped up is his own glory led to lost momentum by MIller, Fiorina (albeit her real defeat was the unfortunate infection), Buck, Angle & Rossi.

His poor choices contributed to a decay of no less than 15 percent-point in Delaware. Had Delaware been advocated by Rove, rather than diminished, today we would be looking at a three-seat Senate majority, & a Republican Governor in CA.

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To: Sacajaweau
Let’s be real....Castle had a better chance for the seat.

And once Castle had the seat, you had a Rat in Pub clothing occupying it.

101 posted on 11/04/2010 6:12:07 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Darkwolf377

I wish she had beaten the RINO -and- the bearded marxist.

But honestly, if we had let Bill Maher or Rachel Maddow or Sissy Matthews pick a candidate for our side, would they have picked anyone other than O’Donnell?


102 posted on 11/04/2010 6:12:07 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Her win would have meant she would seated immediately. That would stop the lame duck plans the dems are planning.

Same with defeating Manchin. We needed some senators to be seated immediately rather than January.

We have no indication at all that Castle would have voted with the republicans rather than Obamao.

All water under the bridge. No amount of money could undo Rove’s assault on primary election night.


103 posted on 11/04/2010 6:12:27 AM PDT by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
She lost by 17. In the best Republican year since 1946, running against a Democrat second stringer, because the Democrat first stringers were afraid of losing to Castle, O'Donnell lost by 17. If you think Karl Rove has 17 points in his hip pocket, in DE, you never caught on that the Karl Rove hurricane control machine pics posted on Free Republic were a joke.

O'Donnell supporters argued before the primary that it was better to lose with her, than to win with Castle. OK. I think we will probably never elect a more conservative DE Senator than Castle, lifetime ACU (American Conservative Union) rating of just over 50%, but I can see some merit in an argument that, assuming we hold the House, it is better to not take the Senate, unless we have 51 conservative Senators.

But many O'Donnell supporters want it both ways. They want to say that it is better to lose with her, than to win with Castle, then, when she loses, in a landslide, just as people like Rove said she would, blame Rove for her loss.

Either losing with O'Donnell beats winning with Castle, or it doesn't. If it does, then O'Donnell supports can say that she may not have won, but that Collins, Graham, Hatch and Snowe will look at happened to Castle and vote more conservatively, and we won't have the problem of conservatism being held responsible for what happens in the Senate, without having a conservative majority.

If losing with O'Donnell doesn't beat winning with Castle, then O'Donnell supporters, not Karl Rove, are to blame.

104 posted on 11/04/2010 6:13:11 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
There you go again, claiming O’Donnell was a particularly bad candidate, while she fared just as well as all Republicans in her state.

If all Republicans fared the same then that is no indication of her quality as a candidate, then--good, bad, or indifferent. So how she did says nothing about her intrinsic qualities, which I have yet to find.

But that's beside the point, because you are incorrect.

The losing Repulican candidate for congress got more votes than O'Donnell.

The losing candidate for treasurer got more votes than O'Donnell.

The winning state auditor is a Republican and got more votes than O'Donnell.

The winning state rep in district 37 is a Republican.

Not talking a Republican-friendly state, but you said "all" Republicans, and that's not the case.

BTW, O'Donnell had the backing of Palin and DeMint, yet that meant nothing compared to one comment by Karl Rove. I guess her fans are arguing that Karl Rove's endorsement or lack of one is more important than either DeMint's or Palin's.

105 posted on 11/04/2010 6:17:23 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: libbylu

Rove was not the reason for her losing, which is the premise of this article.

Rove is a political strategist...I’m not sure any of them have souls to look into. He was focused on getting the most Republicans elected and knew O’Donnell didn’t have a chance.


106 posted on 11/04/2010 6:20:56 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
The point is that Rove’s attacks would seem to have an effect. You took the position that they didn’t. Post 42.

I still take the position that they didn't.

The previous poster took the tack that O'Donnell did the same as all Republicans in Delaware. You're saying Rove had a decisive impact on a 17-point loss.

Which is it--is O'Donnell such an incredible candidate that she could have won in liberal Delaware, but Karl Rove's disdain meant she was swept aside by 17 points, or did she have no hope of winning in Delaware?

Either way, how does that make her a viable candidate?

107 posted on 11/04/2010 6:21:21 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

We knew before the primary how popular Castle was and that he had a virtual lock on the Senate seat.

That doesn’t apply to others in DE that didn’t make it.


108 posted on 11/04/2010 6:22:19 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: sam_paine
If she blames others, and allows her supporters to blame others, then she’s telling us all we need to know about her.

I hope next election, the Tea Party Express and Tea Partiers vet their candidates better and use some common sense concerning the state they are competing in....instead of blaming Karl Rove and RINOs when they blow it.

109 posted on 11/04/2010 6:24:17 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Carley
We have no indication at all that Castle would have voted with the republicans rather than Obamao.

Possibly, but he would at least have to caucus and explain his vote to the R side. NOW we have a guarantee that the Bearded Marxist -will- vote 100% with Reid. All water under the bridge. No amount of money could undo Rove’s assault on primary election night.

Not really.

Apparently O'Donnell's loss dragged several down-ballot conservatives with her that Castle would've carried.

How does that help us?

110 posted on 11/04/2010 6:24:38 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Joe 6-pack
How conveniently everybody forgets Rove suing Dick Thornburgh in a trial presided over by a GHWB appointed judge.

What does that have to do with O'Donnell's lawsuit?

Because Rove sued Dick Thornburgh, it's consistent with a conservative philosophy to sue for $6.9 million because someone didn't get a promotion due to gender discrimination?

The straw's gettin' pretty deep around here! LOL

You guys've got nothing. She's gone, and good riddance to her. In a couple of months, when we have some distance, you'll see it...if we have any hope of living by our values, and not just as reactors to liberal attacks.

111 posted on 11/04/2010 6:24:43 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: sam_paine

KARL ROVE could have shut up and said nothing after the primary.

He didn’t.

HE DID WRONG.

HE IS WRONG FOR THAT.

He did nothing to further the CONSERVATIVE CAUSE - which is why WE are here.

We are not here to advance the Republican cause - unless it is the CONSERVATIVE FIRST.


112 posted on 11/04/2010 6:25:28 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I posted yesterday that David Horowitz wasn’t paid for an appearance he agreed to do for her last campaign. He agreed to do it for her for a small fee and she stiffed him. He was finally paid prior to this campaign.

I heard this on a local conservative radio show David appeared on. He has kept his mouth shut nationally because he preferred the way she would vote if she won.

However, this kind of thing really bothered me when I heard it. I didn’t post about it before the race, but now...hey, its a fact.


113 posted on 11/04/2010 6:26:35 AM PDT by dforest
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To: FrankR

Could he have won?


114 posted on 11/04/2010 6:26:57 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: sport

Why didn’t I run??? In Delaware? I live in NC.


115 posted on 11/04/2010 6:28:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Darkwolf377
"What does that have to do with O'Donnell's lawsuit?"

About as much as O'Donnell's lawsuit has to do with her suitability as a candidate. That's my point. Everybody wants to say "COD is bad because she sued a conservative entity." Well, if that's the litmus test, we need to apply it evenly.

116 posted on 11/04/2010 6:28:33 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: A.Hun

I pick Coons over Castle.


117 posted on 11/04/2010 6:28:44 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: A.Hun
I hope next election, the Tea Party Express and Tea Partiers vet their candidates better and use some common sense concerning the state they are competing in....instead of blaming Karl Rove and RINOs when they blow it.

If Rahm/Axelrod/Obama could have controlled the primary and chosen Coons-vs-Castle or Coons-vs-COD, which one would they choose?

And if KARL ROVE, second only to the Koch and Bush moniker, had come out in huge support for her, how exactly would that have helped win over a state which is 2/3 registered Democrats?

118 posted on 11/04/2010 6:30:43 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Darkwolf377

‘She’s gone, and good riddance to her.’

What a nasty thing to say about your buddy, Lady_GOP.


119 posted on 11/04/2010 6:31:35 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I was not agreeing with it. I think Rove is a souless twit and the reason for the failure of GWB’s second term.


120 posted on 11/04/2010 6:34:38 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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