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To: USALiberty

Before everybody jumps all over us for being heartless monsters who want children to suffer:

Many hospitals in Texas, including the big systems like Harris, have their own insurance plan. If you’re poor, you can chip in a few dollars a month for health insurance. Then you get your care through their hospitals and their clinics and physicians. They offer a variety of plans—HMO types, child-oriented, preferred provider, etc. They get preventive care which keeps major, expensive problems from developing. The important thing is, the poor get care without draining the state budgets altogether, and the hospital gets some compensation.

Even the poor can afford a few bucks for their own care, and when they have some skin in the game, so to speak, they not only avoid treating the ER as a place to watch Oprah reruns all night, but actually begin to act in a responsible way about consuming medical services.

But let’s be honest about this system: the hospitals still do get funding from the state, even if it’s not Medicaid, so it’s not as if the poor suddenly went out to purchase $1500-a-month Blue Cross/Blue Shield private policies.


20 posted on 11/06/2010 6:48:08 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: ottbmare
But let’s be honest about this system: the hospitals still do get funding from the state, even if it’s not Medicaid, so it’s not as if the poor suddenly went out to purchase $1500-a-month Blue Cross/Blue Shield private policies.

It's still redistribution. So, it's still wrong. The "poor" (and by that we really mean THE LAZY and/or the ILLEGAL) don't have a claim on my earnings. Let's make this simple: NO WELFARE. Period.
22 posted on 11/06/2010 6:55:17 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: ottbmare

BTTT

If it’s ‘being considered’, then it’s probably already a done deal. We have a dire shortage of physicians coming up on us. If we don’t put medicine back into the market, nobody will want to practice here.


24 posted on 11/06/2010 7:01:40 PM PDT by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: ottbmare
"Before everybody jumps all over us for being heartless monsters who want children to suffer:"

That's the sort of thing we've got to learn to steel ourselves against. We know we're not knowinly going to allow children to suffer - we never have, it's a figment of the lefts' imagination that they use for a battering ram.

The worse problem conservatives have is a weak "guilt" trigger. We react to the liberals guilt trips before we even check to see if they are telling the truth. That doesn't make us "caring", that makes us fools, as we know how the leftists are.

The left is using a version of the child ploy, "You don't love me", against a parent to get out of being told "no". Parents who care can't fall for that sort of thing, and neither can the conservatives take it from the liberal "children".

Remember, the conservatives passed civil rights; it's the conservatives who are in the churches across the land helping the poor and the homeless. The liberals use all that as a punch line to relieve us of our cash.

I don't know a conservative in the world who would allow a child to suffer or starve - but we can't take all the parents' responsibilities, we've got our own children and their futures to look after.
28 posted on 11/06/2010 7:09:43 PM PDT by FrankR (REPEAL Obamacare, or we'll vote you outta' there....)
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To: ottbmare

I think thats another thing the left wants to being to an end, hospitals having their own plans.


40 posted on 11/06/2010 8:07:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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