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To: wagglebee

Then why did you say “WHO CARES”?

Levity.

It was an attempt to de-escalate with humor.

But there was another point to it. Gays didn’t just start signing up yesterday. And whether or not gays served in Washington’s army...Well, I’d rather not know about it.

To that extent, I agree with DADT.

I fought it when it came around the last time...And we lost.

So, there have got to be better arguments to be found. If right is right, then right will find the way. Finding and making the best arguments is the way I see - finding them and putting them in the hands of those who can actually affect change.

I think Gates is merely taking advantage of this situation. He found this issue thrust into his lap and he’s making his move for whatever is next. He has chosen to see how well he fits in with this administration.

He’s wrong on policy, but that’s not all he’s wrong about. I don’t think they trust him anymore than he trusts them.

This is your personal agenda if you don’t see the big picture. Much more integral to the principles of Conservatism is Rule of Law and the Rights of the Individual. The gays in the military issue is a much more ancillary issue. If you want to make the changes you seek you need to find the best arguments and make ‘em...and make ‘em heard by the people that count.

If you can’t convince me, then I promise you, you are not going to be convincing to General or a Senator. You will find your whining falls on deaf ears.

You have decided to make this personal and that also makes it part of your personal agenda.

You need to decide which side you’re on. I’ll give you my personal copy of Liberty and Tyranny if you think it will help.


160 posted on 11/08/2010 12:15:27 PM PST by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: WAW; wagglebee; metmom; trisham; little jeremiah; DBeers
If you can’t convince me, then I promise you, you are not going to be convincing

There was a troll that was zotted that made the same statement recently. It'll come to me who, sooner or later.

163 posted on 11/08/2010 12:23:46 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: WAW; metmom; trisham; BykrBayb; xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; DBeers; ...
It was an attempt to de-escalate with humor.

The left is trying to destroy our Republic and you think the answer is humor?

But there was another point to it. Gays didn’t just start signing up yesterday. And whether or not gays served in Washington’s army...Well, I’d rather not know about it.

First of all, in Washington's time homosexuality was a capital offense.

Secondly, as I said earlier, the fact that a law is being broken IS NOT a reason to legalize something; "it's happening anyway" is nothing more than the libertarian push for anarchy.

I think Gates is merely taking advantage of this situation. He found this issue thrust into his lap and he’s making his move for whatever is next.

NO, Gates is urging Congress to allow open homosexuality in the military.

He has chosen to see how well he fits in with this administration.

If he had integrity he would have resigned by now.

This is your personal agenda if you don’t see the big picture.

No, it isn't.

Much more integral to the principles of Conservatism is Rule of Law and the Rights of the Individual. The gays in the military issue is a much more ancillary issue. If you want to make the changes you seek you need to find the best arguments and make ‘em...and make ‘em heard by the people that count.

Spoken like a true libertarian, libertarians love to dismiss socially conservatism as ancillary.

If you can’t convince me, then I promise you, you are not going to be convincing to General or a Senator. You will find your whining falls on deaf ears.

I think your mistaken, I'm not actually trying to convince YOU of anything.

You have decided to make this personal and that also makes it part of your personal agenda.

No, that would be YOU.

164 posted on 11/08/2010 12:49:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: WAW

what was your name before you got banned before troll?

If you had any brains you’d understand that this place is not for your queer sick perverted agenda, obviously you have no life or just too dumb to understand that


243 posted on 11/08/2010 7:01:10 PM PST by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder as is liberalism. Anyone supporting this needs mental help)
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To: WAW

you can’t be convinced because you signed up with an agenda , a sick agenda at that.

It’s high time you thought about how these sicko’s get off and the think because they get off i such an unnatural sick way they think and you that they should be married and be accepted into a fine institution called the military.

If you can’t see how sick mentally these people are then you need help too.


244 posted on 11/08/2010 7:14:09 PM PST by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder as is liberalism. Anyone supporting this needs mental help)
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