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Why I quit... Desert Storm vet explains decision to leave Air Force after 22 years
Daily Inter Lake ^ | 11/7/10 | By MIKE BANZET

Posted on 11/07/2010 7:52:26 AM PST by Nachum

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To: cherry
“but he is in a position to move on to something else....because he'll get a nice govt pension and lifelong medical and extra points to get another govt job...”

If the government continues to pay the pensions, and if they don't kill what medical insurance military retirees are able to buy. There is NO free medical for retirees, despite promises of same. (with the possible exception of disabled vets)

81 posted on 11/07/2010 12:53:48 PM PST by Old Student
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To: Nachum

Probably not. Most officers and NCOs don’t go to any public outlets and sites to voice their reasons. That usually happens when a high-ranking general officer publicly has an issue with an administration and goes public as to why. Those are also usually few and far between.


82 posted on 11/07/2010 1:45:46 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Old Student

Most military retirees don’t “retire” when they leave the military unless they are general officers and most of them don’t either. At 22 years my retired pay as an O4 was maybe about 1/3 of my total active duty compensation. Since most retirees at that point still have kids at home or in college you just can’t maintain your lifestyle, even with frugality, without obtaining fulltime employment of some kind. Now, with the retirement, there comes some flexibility in being able to take jobs that might pay a bit less than what a civilian with the same experience might get but that flexibility can be a plus in terms of not having to beat yourself silly trying to surpass what you made on active duty. The lifelong medical has been watered down greatly from what was promised when I enlisted in 1969 and what was in place when I was commissioned in 1976 and could decline further. The extra points to get into a government civil service job is chancy in the best of times and it seems that NCOs can usually benefit from that more than officers. Besides, a lot of us tend to try to steer clear of government jobs and government contractor jobs because they are there at the whim of the administration and you can easily find yourself on the streets looking for something else.


83 posted on 11/07/2010 2:00:13 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950
“Since most retirees at that point still have kids at home or in college you just can’t maintain your lifestyle, even with frugality, without obtaining fulltime employment of some kind. Now, with the retirement, there comes some flexibility in being able to take jobs that might pay a bit less than what a civilian with the same experience might get but that flexibility can be a plus in terms of not having to beat yourself silly trying to surpass what you made on active duty.”

I'm aware of that. My youngest was born late August, and I retired 1 November, of ‘97. I next get to retire when they nail the box shut on me. Tricare Prime beats a sharp stick in the eye, but it's certainly not “free” as my recruiter promised me. Despite staying for 24 years, I'd STILL like to meet TSgt. Clifton T. Angel, Jr. in a dark alley somewhere. ;)

84 posted on 11/07/2010 2:19:41 PM PST by Old Student
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To: Nachum

I hate to say this, but I see this coming. The recent election notwithstanding, the more our country heads toward left-wing insanity, the greater the demoralization among our armed forces & other traditional pillars (i.e. law enforcement, teachers, etc.). When there is nothing worth defending or nurturing, why bother?


85 posted on 11/07/2010 2:20:32 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: DTogo

No, you can retire after 20 but, as he said, he could be a Lt Col when he re-upped, and therefore could easily make General by 30. His then retirement would be huge compared to 22 at Major


86 posted on 11/07/2010 2:57:04 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Nachum; Veeram

Pretty much says it all in one tidy, encapsulated package, doesn’t it? This is due to the fact that the Democrat party has been hijacked by the Radical Left, those from the Sixties who cut their hair and put on suits.

They look like who we expect to see at the levers of power, but when they open their mouths, those of us who take the time to listen to them understand exactly who and what they are.

Those who don’t really listen to them, vote for them.

(Thanks for the ping, Veeram...)


87 posted on 11/07/2010 4:53:52 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: MasterGunner01; Outlaw Woman
All these punks on the Left need to understand that men with guns stand ready to do violence on their behalf so they can sleep soundly in their beds at night.

Idea for a political cartoon:

The outline of the U.S., guarded at every point by an armed soldier (complete with bayonet) facing outward. Within the border, at the very center*, a single wispy-bearded, bespectacled bohemian, holding an anti-war protest sign and a "Down with the U.S. sign" and wearing an irritating smirk.

(The "center" would work here for graphic reasons, though we know in real life, the geographic center of the U.S. is actually very conservative and very supportive of those who defend the nation.)

If such a cartoon hasn't been penned, it should be.

88 posted on 11/07/2010 5:20:29 PM PST by thecodont
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To: yldstrk
Really we live in a pagan society.
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I just returned ( about 15 minutes ago) from Sedona, Arizona. It is true. Far, far too many of the people visiting that town are complete and utter pagans. I am dismayed and disheartened.

How long with God tolerate this and withhold His wrath?

Our nation is literally in a Cold Civil War. I pray that God will stand by those fighting for our Constitution. By the way, I have noticed that the godless Marxists are not calling us the Constitution Worshipers.

89 posted on 11/07/2010 5:33:33 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: DUMBGRUNT

ping


90 posted on 11/07/2010 5:55:45 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: lady lawyer

Yes,absolutely , he and Lt. Col West should become fellow members of Congress. Perhaps he will join West’s
Congressional staff.

This is a very good man.


91 posted on 11/07/2010 6:30:59 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Navy Patriot

Nations fall because a privileged, cancerous part of their people become unworthy of support or protection and cannot be removed from the society. The degenerates will never risk themselves to defend the nation, and when others will not, conscripted or otherwise, it is over.

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Poland; Soviet Union; German Democratic Republic; Romania . . .


92 posted on 11/07/2010 7:44:29 PM PST by Psalm 144 (We are going to punish our enemies, get in their faces and punch back twice as hard.)
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To: Nachum
Yes, I understand; but I'm also here in the U.S. and I am trying like a lot of others to change things back. I hope some of our servicemen and women stay on to defend those of us who value America and its ideals and constitution.

Those who want to write a thank you to our troops or send a care package, please contact me via this troop support thread.

Merry Band of Patriots

93 posted on 11/07/2010 7:46:40 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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To: Nachum

Amen.


94 posted on 11/07/2010 9:46:20 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Outlaw Woman

Prior to the 2000 election (I think it was that one...) one color was for incumbent on the map and the other was for challenger (I don’t remember which was which right now). After 2000, the news media held the colors static... and I agree with the reasons you suggest.


95 posted on 11/08/2010 5:16:28 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Old Student

I know the feeling alright. My youngest was in Jr. High when I retired and they’ve been out of the house for 10 years now but with all of the cuts, potential higher taxes etc permanent retirement will probably come when they plant me. The wife still thinks she will retire at 65 but I have serious doubts about that working out.


96 posted on 11/08/2010 6:38:06 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: The Comedian

“I suffer the same malady.”
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Pure hell, ain’t it?


97 posted on 11/08/2010 6:54:08 AM PST by RipSawyer (Clem Hussein Kadiddlehopper would be a vast improvement.)
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To: RipSawyer
Pure hell, ain’t it?

We cope, and accept that most men cannot be expected to withstand the burden we willingly carry.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

98 posted on 11/08/2010 8:15:57 AM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: shalom aleichem
No, you can retire after 20 but, as he said, he could be a Lt Col when he re-upped, and therefore could easily make General by 30.

Officers don't 'reup' and no one easily makes general.

99 posted on 11/08/2010 8:48:48 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: Nachum

His sentiments expresses perfectly what many many people are feeling. That this country has lost its way...perhaps my find it but with great difficulty since so much of the
moral righteous principles upon which it is founded has already been swept away from beneath it.

The heathens in control have done a lot of damage already.

He should join the TEA movement and run for office - the higher the better.


100 posted on 11/08/2010 10:25:54 AM PST by eleni121 (http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm)
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