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RL Stine: "I am so glad I live in New York City and not the United States.”
UK Telegraph ^

Posted on 11/08/2010 11:41:55 PM PST by roses of sharon

'I am so glad I live in New York City and not the United States,” the author RL Stine wrote last week on Twitter. That New Yorkers view the rest of America with contempt is no secret, but the elections last week were a vivid reminder of their alienation from the rest of the country. “It feels like 2004 all over again,” one friend told me.

The mood on the street was sombre on Tuesday night, with most choosing to watch the results from home, rather than seeing events unfold from a bar, as they did two years ago. One friend implored online: “Let sanity prevail!” Another staunch East Coast Republican called the Tea Party “anger without an agenda”. The week before, a magazine writer referred to the Tea Partiers as “Second Amendment zealots and s---kickers”, and went on to call the prospect of Sarah Palin as president “a kind of spook story told around a campfire”.

Election or not, New Yorkers still regard the places between the two coasts as the “fly-over states”: the unglamorous bits full of fat people who go to church. (I’ve been to Ohio, and the generalisation isn’t far off.)

In fact, for such a cosmopolitan city, it’s astonishing how parochial people are. “If you want to find Middle America,” says one friend of mine, “just drive an hour outside of any city.” The Panhandle states, he says, are thought of as “the Redneck Riviera”; Wyoming and Montana are Unabomber country.

Four years ago, Eliot Spitzer, the then attorney general, was campaigning for governor and got into trouble for comparing upstate New York to Appalachia. He was accused of “city-centric elitism”. But he’s far from the only one who starts humming the theme from Deliverance as soon as he gets beyond the city limits.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: ari-freedom

The South is rising again.


61 posted on 11/09/2010 2:19:39 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Cowabunga)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

There’s more to NYC than Manhattan and Madison Avenue. I wouldn’t want to live there, either.


62 posted on 11/09/2010 2:20:32 AM PST by ari-freedom (Ding dong the Pelosi is gone!)
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To: Pontiac

“The entertainment and advertising industries are based in the two cities of NYC and Los Angeles (Hollywood). These two cities lead the cultural revolution by way of entertainment and advertising.”

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That’s what’s wrong with America right now.

Even Fox News broadcasts from New York. What’s needed is some alternatives which simply ignore the two coasts.

Somewhere like Denver or even Austin, as a new media hub. Plenty of infrastructure in other cities in America, NYC and LA really aren’t necessary - and frankly getting to be more trouble than they’re worth.

Then, some place like Branson MO as a base for an alternative film industry.

The time for simply complaining about NYC and LA’s out of touch crap is long over. They need to simply be replaced. Not around the edges. Not through “pressure”. Just replace them elsewhere, and be done with it.

Let them then dissolve, by themselves into the arrogant irrelevance they deserve.


63 posted on 11/09/2010 2:22:19 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (FU TURD BLOSSOM!)
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To: roses of sharon

I’ve often wondered how a city and state, such as New York, which prides itself upon being a leader, a robust, culturally rich grouping of society, politically elite, could not find a single candidate within their entire political spectrum to represent them, who had any historical residency from their state, when they elected Hillary Clinton as their Senator.

The culturally elite had to find a wife of an Arkansas pervert to mirror their political aspirations. Incredibly bizarre. Such is the legacy of NY.


64 posted on 11/09/2010 2:28:37 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: This Just In

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”


The importance of a classical education in the arts is unfortunately not appreciated by many conservatives. Classical art teaches one to appreciate beauty, order and harmony. Can you see why the Left wouldn’t want Americans to have this sense of awareness?


65 posted on 11/09/2010 2:42:44 AM PST by ari-freedom (Ding dong the Pelosi is gone!)
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To: Cvengr

“I’ve often wondered how a city and state, such as New York, which prides itself upon being a leader, a robust, culturally rich grouping of society, politically elite, could not find a single candidate within their entire political spectrum to represent them, who had any historical residency from their state, when they elected Hillary Clinton as their Senator.”

Caroline Kennedy, you know? :)


66 posted on 11/09/2010 2:45:48 AM PST by ari-freedom (Ding dong the Pelosi is gone!)
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To: roses of sharon

I grew up in NYC and I loved it, but the problem with New York is that it is the Perfect Democrat Storm. It has a bunch of rich celebrities and academics (very few of them originally from New York, btw) combined with a sullen, aggressive union and municipal employee culture and herds of immigrants who are drafted into the Democratic Party practically as soon as they set foot on US soil.

In fact, the comments about residents of places outside of New York are even applied by the celebs and academics to anybody who lives outside of certain areas of Manhattan and Brooklyn, people who live in the dread “Outer Boroughs.”

There are a lot of real people who live in New York and there are even a number of very conservative people. But they are politically powerless and they are invisible to the media. Hence it looks like a city of nothing but 20-something twits and aging lefty professors with their bellies busting out of the denim workshirts they wear to show solidarity with the “people.”

Furthermore, the city has a tradition of mindless political “progressivism” that goes back to the 1930s. There was a brief reaction against it when people voted for Giuliani, but even he changed over the years and nanny-state progressivism returned with a vengeance under Bloomberg. And the whole point of progressivism is that the elite know better than everybody else - which is exactly what New York’s in-crowd seems to believe about themselves.


67 posted on 11/09/2010 2:52:39 AM PST by livius
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Plenty of infrastructure in other cities in America, NYC and LA really aren’t necessary - and frankly getting to be more trouble than they’re worth.

Really with the internet it won’t be that long and you could produce your own TV or movies with little infrastructure.

What do you really need these days? A couple of HD video cameras (4 to 5 grand) a couple high capacity servers (???) and one or two T2 lines and you can have your own internet TV station.

Building the sets might be your biggest expense. You can most likely get your actors for free to begin with.

Just guessing put I think you should be able to get started for $50K or so.

68 posted on 11/09/2010 2:58:15 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: roses of sharon

it’s astonishing how parochial people are. “If you want to find Middle America,” says one friend of mine, “just drive an hour outside of any city.” The Panhandle states, he says, are thought of as “the Redneck Riviera”; Wyoming and Montana are Unabomber country.


It’s true

and proud of it.

Now canI tell you what I think of you ... ???

Thought not.


69 posted on 11/09/2010 2:58:29 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: krb

That New Yorkers view the rest of America with contempt is no secret, but the elections last week were a vivid reminder of their alienation from the rest of the country.
One day that asshat is going to realize that most of the foreign policy decisions that get America drawn into brouhahas are caused by people in New York and DC. But it’s the rest of America whose kids are sent to fight in the wars that result.

Scary people are starting to notice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHNqK4jngcs


Ha ha ha ha think he doesn’t know that already?

Think he cares?

Think he isn’t laughing at you all for being such suckers?

Think he doesn’t love NY and hate the rest of us???

Has everyone on FR actually been to NY and LA and talked to these people?

Ever been screamed at in NY, as I was, for politely asking directions???


70 posted on 11/09/2010 3:01:41 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Pontiac

Good points.

As much as I object to his bubble-headed globalism, back in the day Ted Turner had it right.

He didn’t mess with New York or LA and built the first real cable news network in Atlanta.

Technologies, politics and market forces are presenting opportunities for another such leap-frog. Hopefully some on our side will step up to the plate and get this moving.

Liberals have had a monopoly on information and entertainment for far, far too long. They have deliberately and quite successfully taken over our media, that needs to be shattered.

Bi-coastal leftists so need competition. Real competition. Competition which can put them out of business, competition.

Badly.

Fox News, but bigger.

Rush could be the one to start it. The huge, pent-up market for some alternative to the pervasive leftist nonsense is so profound, it could tremendously enrich the first few conservatives who have the guts to do it.

Rush, really would be in the catbird seat imho. He could get this rolling.


71 posted on 11/09/2010 3:10:59 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (FU TURD BLOSSOM!)
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To: Pontiac

Alternatively, organic competition to bi-coastal leftists’ monopoly on media could even spring from sites like FR.

Imagining ... a sort of synergy, between FR, Drudgereport, Breitbart and Hotair. Perhaps specifically these sites. Perhaps a new entry, combining the best characteristics.

I believe FR could actually grow into a patriotic pro-American media hub of monster scale.

FR for the interactivity (FR can be far faster, even than cable news during fast-breaking stories). Drudge for his millions of loyal readers, and for hard news. Breitbart for additional innovation, and his unquestionable edge. Finally fold in some additional innovative sites like Hotair for the multimedia and independence.

None of it, requires ever even setting foot in New York, or Hollywood.

:)


72 posted on 11/09/2010 3:32:45 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (FU TURD BLOSSOM!)
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To: ari-freedom

The magazine Vanity Fair is pure New York. All flash and no substance.


73 posted on 11/09/2010 3:36:03 AM PST by Melchior
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To: roses of sharon
Ahhhhhh, what short memories New Yorkers have!

I worked in NYC "BG" (Before Giuliani) -- and I remember! There has been an almost unprecedented -- for NYC -- string of 5 NYC mayoral elections now where the winner has been Republican, or at least someone who is semi-sane. Bloomberg has indicated that he won't run for a fourth term, and the next mayoral election is 2013. I'll give it to 2015, at the latest, when NYC reverts to it natural chaotic state.

Really, my daughter works in NYC and I told her she'd best try to make arrangements to telecommute from NJ before then.

74 posted on 11/09/2010 3:53:21 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: livius

Well said, livius!

I was born & raised in NY (Queens), and your description of the City is quite accurate, especially the remark about the politically powerless conservatives here. I no longer live within the bounds of NYC, but I do live too close for comfort.

As I have said many times on these boards, someday, I shall escape and be slightly more free. As it stands now, I am surrounded by nannyist weenies here, who CLEARLY think that Government should be my Mommy. I can barely stand it anymore. I do have a good hunk of family still here, and I love my church, and my oldest kid is in (Catholic) high school. When he graduates, though...we’ll probably leave ASAP.

We’re thinking Virginia (Shenendoah Valley). There’s a great Catholic college there, and big, pretty, old houses just like I like ‘em. I may have been born and bred in the Big City, but I’m a country gal at heart.

Regards,


75 posted on 11/09/2010 3:56:37 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: Strk321

And my kids wonder why I don’t let them in public libraries....

http://community.livejournal.com/animorphs/447471.html


76 posted on 11/09/2010 4:24:29 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: ari-freedom
"Indeed, one thing I don’t quite understand is why do most Christians, who are from Middle America, send their kids to secular public schools instead of creating their own religious schools like the Jews and the Catholics?"

Are you serious, ari? If so, you'll be happy to hear that there are Christian schools all over the country! (There are even a few in NYC). Also, many committed Christians, who can afford to do so, choose to homeschool their children in order to achieve the maximum benefit of academic excellence.

But, yes, Christian schools (most of which are also recognized as academically rigorous) can be found all over the country, for those who choose that option.

77 posted on 11/09/2010 4:28:04 AM PST by NH Liberty ("For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus..." [1 Timothy 2:5])
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To: roses of sharon
Silly, weak, fearful people need to borrow their substance and spine from a location. Strong, free people can live anywhere. The first group borrows stature from their zip code, the second group gives stature to their zip codes.

This has been true since way before Rome was founded.

78 posted on 11/09/2010 4:30:38 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: MacMattico
When I lived Upstate there was a popular bumper sticker: Let the Apple Rot!. There has long been some confusion on the part of many in Manhattan, especially the affluent and aloof of the city, that the nation somehow needs them. Maybe it really is time that they declared themselves a sovereign island country, sort of a Singapore without the cleanliness and civic discipline.
79 posted on 11/09/2010 4:32:16 AM PST by katana
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To: roses of sharon

When those red-neck truckers stop bringing food to those urban snobs, we’ll see who’s laughing last. For morons who are totally dependent on the “rubes” outside the cities for food and heat, they certainly have a loud mouth.


80 posted on 11/09/2010 4:38:02 AM PST by kittymyrib
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