[Tired of Taxes]

Demanding 11th and 12th grade proficiency from people, especially males, with an AVERAGE IQ of 85 is cruel

Only if you buy into the notion that IQ scores are inherent. Unless there is a real and true disability inhibiting a person's intellectual capabilities, that IQ test score is most likely a result of one's environment - family, cultural influences, lowered expectations and standards, etc.

Refusing to raise expectations and standards is cruel.

[triumphant values]

Unless there is a real and true disability inhibiting a person's intellectual capabilities, that IQ test score is most likely a result of one's environment - family, cultural influences, lowered expectations and standards, etc.

That's absolute horse hockey. That's like saying my 40 yard dash time is a result of my environment.

[dfwgator]

Unless there is a real and true disability inhibiting a person's intellectual capabilities, that IQ test score is most likely a result of one's environment - family, cultural influences, lowered expectations and standards, etc.

"The usual amount?"

[Jim Noble]

Only if you buy into the notion that IQ scores are inherent

There is no evidence that they are not.