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I think the opposite might be true - that too many black kids can't intellectually compete - and the rationalization becomes 'don't want to act white'... That said, lots of highly intelligent black people.

To find the truth - and solutions - the problem needs to be looked at without PC glasses or rationalizations...

Probably the last thing I'll be accused of is being politically correct. I'm sure there are numerous reasons why some blacks don't fit into the system; however I know what I observed while growing up. I went to public schools during desegregation. In high school, many of the black males sat on the back row with their heads down of the desk, sleeping. They had no intention to even try. I think theirs was an attitude problem, rather than outright stupidity.

I went to public schools during desegregation. In high school, many of the black males sat on the back row with their heads down of the desk, sleeping. They had no intention to even try. I think theirs was an attitude problem, rather than outright stupidity.

I agree with you - lots of reasons people can't intellectually compete - and only one of them is IQ. Like you say - attitude is another. Especially when dealing with teenage boys... Here's some other possibilities: teen boys become whatever turns girls on. White boys do the same - and little white girls have Moms saying things like "what kind of provided will he be - - what does his father do - - what are his plans... " etc. etc. etc. Teen white boys are told by their fathers things about how important it is to finish school, get a good job, etc in order to get the girl. Black culture - the (one that evolved after the 1960's) pushed 'exciting, dangerous, bad boy, 'hood, cool, criminal, drug involved etc.etc. It pushed the message that a 9 to 5 job was boring - that being a member of a gang was exciting. And this worked in a culture overwhelmed with welfare - where the State did the supporting - and boys were for fun. Incentives. Perverse incentives.

Welfare also gave the black culture strong women - and women who could count as two slots for companies dealing with new affirmative action dictates. A black woman would count as 1. a woman and 2. a black. That also undermined the black male. Over the years, incentives created in the sixties have brought us to a place where black women college grads outnumber male college grads. And some of the same incentives that worked against black males is working against white males. White women work cheaper - and companies often give them the job - a twofer - cheaper labor and counts as 1. a woman employee.

Sorry for going on and on - what's your take? What do you think is causing the attitude problem?