Just Spoke W/ Very Senior Ret. USAF Officer. Says USAF, NORAD, Etc. Have "No Clue" About Missile.

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[okie01]

EVERYTHING in the picture is glowing. The bright orange-yellow sunset is making the clouds, the contrail, and yes, the plane glow. No need to have fire.

But isn't the object going toward the sunset?

Accordingly, it's trailing end would be in shadow. Yet, it's glowing.

[BushCountry]

Here is what I am talking about. This picture clearly shows the exact angle (lights on the ground) and you know the location and time of helicopter flight.

[TigersEye]

I imagine someone continued to tape it but we just haven't seen the end.

So, all this hysteria continues after 24 hours with national news stations harassing the Pentagon for answers when the whole thing could be settled by watching the rest of the tape? ROTFLOL

[Right Wing Assault]

the whole thing could be settled by watching the rest of the tape? ROTFLOL

Why would you draw that conclusion? You just asked why the plane didn't fly overhead. I answered that it likely did, hence a tape would show it. I don't think there is anything it would settle. I think it is already settled. It's a plane.

[TigersEye]

I don't think there is anything it would settle.

So, there aren't numerous threads about this, there aren't news reports on every major network, the government isn't saying they don't know what it is and someone already viewed the "whole tape" and since it shows an airplane passing overhead they decided it isn't important enough to show the public? Well, why would they since none of this ever happened?

[MindBender26]

Now that is a name from the past.... :)

[D-fendr]

They should know the exact…

Who is responsible for collecting and analyzing the information, cross referencing with the track logs of aircraft and presenting the results?

[MindBender26]

If it was a launch, why no Red Collar call from a DSP bird alarm?

If a/c, why no ATC track report? I know ATC keeps recording of all a/c tracks for at least 180 days.

Very wierd.

[D-fendr]

Raw video

[MindBender26]

If it was a launch, why no Red Collar call from a DSP bird alarm?

If a/c, why no ATC track? I know ATC keeps recording of all a/c tracks for at least 180 days.

DOD would have rules out a/c ASAP. Time and direction would be easily discernable from sun angle.

Also plume/contrail does not dissipate at extent jet contrails do.

[TigersEye]

That is the same video as the others that have been linked just played more times in their report. If that video and the photographer's testimony don't convince you that it was no aircraft then nothing will.

Thanks for the link.

[Rome2000]

There's been a security crisis since the marxists took control of Congress in 2006.

The commie in chief and his allies in the press are going to make like this never happened.

[TigersEye]

If a/c, why no ATC track report? I know ATC keeps recording of all a/c tracks for at least 180 days. Very wierd.

Very weird to say the least.

Expert Thinks "Mystery Missile" an Illusion

The FAA told CBS News that they ran radar replays of a large area west of Los Angeles based on media reports of the location of a possible missile launch, but they did not reveal any fast moving unidentified targets in that area. The FAA also did not receive any reports of any unusual sightings from pilots in the area.

That settles it. It was the contrail of an invisible stealth airplane. /s

[D-fendr]

Government is saying no DOD involvement and no missile detection, no foreign missile launch and no threat.

One expert called it an optical illusion. “It’s an airplane that is heading toward the camera and the contrail is illuminated by the setting sun,” said John Pike, director of the U.S.-based security analyst group globalsecurity.org.

Pike said the object could not have been a rocket because it appeared to alter its course. “The local station chopped up the video and so it’s hard to watch it continuously,” Pike said. “But at one place you can see it has changed course — rockets don’t do that.”
Pike said he didn’t understand why the military had not recognized the contrail of an aircraft. “The Air Force must …understand how contrails are formed,” he said. “Why they can’t get some major out to belabor the obvious, I don’t know.”

Source and Raw Video

[PA Engineer]

Very wierd.

And FUBAR.

[TigersEye]

How many times are you going to give me the link to the same stinkin’ video? It was no airplane.

[BushCountry]

So, are you saying that if a unexplained and suspected rocket launch happened off our coast no government agency would care? This isn’t 15 minutes or even an hour later, it has been over 24 hours and no explanation at all, other than maybe a jet. Sure it is most likely a jet, but still provide an iota of proof.

The military alone should have invested the manpower, resources, and are certainly capable of doing the math. Dozens of Departments in Homeland security? I don’t know who, but it is silly to let a story like this linger. It undermines confidence in the government.

[Drago]

If a/c, why no ATC track? I know ATC keeps recording of all a/c tracks for at least 180 days.

There are plenty of ATC radar tracks...but since everyone is asking the military/FAA about unidentified "missiles" they aren't providing info on/investigating jet contrails. Here are two possible flights:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA225

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA221

Track some flights from yesterday here:

http://www4.passur.com/san.html  (zoom out all the way and start at about 5:15pm yesterday).

Yes, as far as a missile launch, you are correct, why no detection from DoD birds? Space Command/NORAD has radar/detection at Point Magu/Goleta, CA???

[D-fendr]

It doesn’t have the characteristics of a rocket contrail, nor the “rockets” of a rocket. It looks like a jet contrail. Almost identical looking to the one that caused a similar story in Orange County last December 31.

[TigersEye]

Pike said the object could not have been a rocket because it appeared to alter its course.

That right there tells you Pike doesn't know what he's talking about.