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What Can Republicans Do About Obamacare? (Let it twist slowly, slowly in the wind)
Nationa Review ^ | 11/10/2010 | John c. Goodman

Posted on 11/10/2010 6:48:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/10/2010 6:48:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

VOTE TO REPEAL THIS 2,600 PAGE GEOURGE SOROS BUILT MONSTROSITY

AND DO THAT OVER AND OVER UNTIL ANY PRESIDENT SIGNS IT.


2 posted on 11/10/2010 6:49:56 AM PST by Mr. K (*this space for rent*)
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To: Mr. K

The was an article by a Liberal Doctor that gives a blueprint to defund the Obama Care in the New England medical Journal. Starve the beast with no funding.


3 posted on 11/10/2010 6:53:03 AM PST by scooby321
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To: SeekAndFind

I dont like this strategic idea that “Obamacare” is good for a GOP issue. Obamacare is BAD FOR AMERICA. Period. Needs to be repealed.


4 posted on 11/10/2010 6:56:00 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: SeekAndFind

I can see targeting the most unpopular features of Obamacare and forcing Democrats to defend them against repeal. It is a political albatross around the Democrats’ neck and the more they resist, the more it will boomerang on them. This is going to be an issue for the next few election cycles yet.


5 posted on 11/10/2010 6:56:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mr. K; seekthetruth; MamaDearest; tgusa; sheik yerbouty; Todd Kinsey; IbJensen; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

IMO, the House Republican leadership must go on national TV and expose the hidden evil within the DeathCare bill and expose what the ramifications of this Soros-funded destruction is all about. Reagan bypassed the RATs by going to the American people. Exposure is the key to defeating the enemies within this Regime and what’s left in the House and Senate. Exposure is what they fear the most. The wrath of the American people isn’t a pleasant thing. November 2nd was just the beginning.


6 posted on 11/10/2010 6:58:49 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: KC_Conspirator

Agreed. But we can fillet Obamacare in the meantime. The things people like about it least are the things they want changed. The Democrats have to decide at every point over the next two years whether they they want to defend them or have their political pink slips issued to them in 2012.


7 posted on 11/10/2010 6:59:18 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind
And seniors are politically focused and potentially organized.

But too many are led by the AARP/SEIU alliance which are masters at disinformation campaigns.

Both organizations need to be discredited and broken.

8 posted on 11/10/2010 7:06:32 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: goldstategop

Filleting carries the real political risk that, at some point, the sheeple will be convinced that the worst provisions of ObamaCare have been reformed and what remains is either good or something we can live with.


9 posted on 11/10/2010 7:10:08 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind
The short-term goal should be to push back the dates of these rate cuts by an election cycle or two.

That's why I vote GOP!! They can kick the can as well - no, much better than, the Rats!!

10 posted on 11/10/2010 7:14:47 AM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I agree with Rush's idea. Slice and dice this monstrosity and make every dim house member vote for the individual part. Once the public see what all is in this bill, they will want no part of it.
11 posted on 11/10/2010 7:15:18 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Work harder than ever for 2012.)
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To: SeekAndFind

this was written by the guy who played Roseanne Barr’s husband?


12 posted on 11/10/2010 7:23:47 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatever.

I want it killed. Now. I have no interest in the GOP using it the way Democrats use DADT for gays. I expect Republicans in every office around the country to use every means to kill it starting now and I expect and hope it reaches the Supreme Court within a couple of years at the latest where Kennedy had better strike it unconstitutional. I’d be happy if it were struck dead by the higher court before 2012. Then the GOP would have to scramble to make small government and cutting spending their platform and actually run on something rather then against something.


13 posted on 11/10/2010 7:27:56 AM PST by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didnÂ’t have the principles.---Jim that leans conservDeMin)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Absolutely! Not only did the people in Congress NOT even read the ObamaCare bill, but now it’s going to go to “panels” to be interpreted and implimented; and these panels can find ANY interpretation they choose in what is essentially 2000+ pages of confusing mishmash. But we have ONE thing to show for it that’s guaranteed: another trillion added to our national debt!


14 posted on 11/10/2010 7:33:06 AM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: SeekAndFind

While I agree that the ‘really bad’ aspects of this monstrosity of a bill don’t kick in until 2013 & 2014-—well after Nobama will no longer be Predident, there is another really bad part of the bill.

This person obviously has never tracked data & gathered information in order to correctly prepare 1099’s for the government.

I have....for over 40 years for my bookkeeping clients..... & I have been reviewing the current year’s data in mentally preparing for this new requirement starting 1-1-2011.

I absolutely do not know how I can fully comply with all the details. I have clients who use a service truck to install & repaid Air conditioning & heating mechanisms in homes, churches, & offices. His truck can be anywhere in a 3-4 county area. Telling him that he cannot buy fuel at any gas station unless he gets a W-9 properly filled out first will me impossible.

I have to have him start this process as of 1-1-2011, because neither of us will know how much business he will do with any particular location in the coming 365 days.

I cannot send a 1099 to ‘Chevron’ for the gasoline he purchases on that credit card. Those purchases are done in a number of different locations.

I cannot send a 1099 to ‘Master Card’ or ‘Visa’ or ‘Discover’ either, because the purchases will be from a number of locations.

The suppliers he has used for many years will not be such a problem, but will still require detailing every supplier within the expense account “Goods Purchased”.

All 1099’s need to be done & in the mail by 1-31-2012, so I have truly less than 30 days to do all this detail preparation & typing of forms. Keep in mind, I have never seen the forms in the stores before mid-November.

Who knows how many forms will be needed? Who is printing up & stocking all those forms? Everyone will be guessing.

What if I cannot get enough forms & get this chore done before Jan 31? There is a fine for every form not done...a stiff fine.


15 posted on 11/10/2010 7:36:55 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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I dont like this strategic idea that “Obamacare” is good for a GOP issue. Obamacare is BAD FOR AMERICA. Period. Needs to be repealed.

I'm with you. We don't need to keep ObamaCare as a pet issue to beat the Dems with every two years. We need to kill it. If the Tea Party members of Congress fail because they lack the numbers, that's one thing. If they choose not to try, I will not be amused. It's time to govern for the sake of governing well, rather than as a tactic to prepare for the next election cycle.

16 posted on 11/10/2010 7:37:14 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: goldstategop

There is absolutely NOTHING in this bill which has any redeeming value that we have been able to find so far.

It all needs to be dumped & let the states & insurers do their job. It isn’t necessary for the Federal Government to control 18% +|+ of the economy in this manner. PERIOD.


17 posted on 11/10/2010 7:39:47 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ExTexasRedhead

But an hour of prime time & get about 10 of the best known GOP leaders & rising stars at the table to expose the real costs of this HELLTH care bill.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul & taking over about 18% ++ of the entire economy isn’t the answer.

Paul never objects to this arrangement—but Peter does & rightly so. Those who are the producers can decide they will just stop producing. They will “Go Galt”.


18 posted on 11/10/2010 7:45:05 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope, put up one bill after another to repeal and defund it asap. DON’T let them put the pieces in place for implementing. How do we know for sure 2012 will not end up a DEM’s YEAR?


19 posted on 11/10/2010 8:15:39 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: SeekAndFind

Very cynical, shortsighted, and stupid.


20 posted on 11/10/2010 3:37:23 PM PST by dr_who
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