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Oklahoma to consider executing death row inmates with drugs vets use to put down animals
DailyMail ^ | 8:39 AM on 10th November 2010 | Daniel Bates

Posted on 11/10/2010 8:57:04 AM PST by Niuhuru

The state of Oklahoma is planning to execute death row inmates with drugs intended for use on animals.

Lawmakers want to switch away from the only brand of anaesthetic that has been used in the US for lethal injections because there is not enough to go around.

The replacement is likely to attract controversy because it is currently used by vets to anesthetise animals for operations.

Other states are watching closely and may well follow suit, but such a move is likely to face a challenge from human rights groups to ensure that it is safe to use.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: anaesthetic; animals; dead; death; deathpenalty; deathrow; drug; drugs; execute; execution; humanrights; inmates; lawmakers; lethalinjection; oaklahoma; penalties; penalty; states; victims
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1 posted on 11/10/2010 8:57:09 AM PST by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

Why don’t they use a high velocity injection of copper-jacketed lead?


2 posted on 11/10/2010 8:58:35 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Niuhuru
the only brand of anaesthetic that has been used in the US for lethal injections because there is not enough to go around.

Time to expand the factory.

3 posted on 11/10/2010 8:59:03 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

well, I daresay that one could create jobs through building factories to make these drugs.


4 posted on 11/10/2010 9:00:04 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru
Other states are watching closely and may well follow suit, but such a move is likely to face a challenge from human rights groups to ensure that it is safe to use.

Well we wouldn't want anybody to DIE as a result of this, would we.

This facepalm will leave a mark...

5 posted on 11/10/2010 9:01:14 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: stefanbatory

Tempting, but I think that it would be better to do a hanging. That way it would be environmentally friendly and we could have parents bring their kids if they are becoming delinquints, show them the consequences of what their current choices are leading to.


6 posted on 11/10/2010 9:01:45 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: stefanbatory

...to ensure that it is safe to use.

Isn’t it used to kill someone? How important is safety here?


7 posted on 11/10/2010 9:02:15 AM PST by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

The human rights groups have the wrong target for their sympathies.


8 posted on 11/10/2010 9:02:31 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Okay. Just how safe does an injection have to be if it’s for capital punishment purposes? What’s the worst it could do? Kill them?

(yeah, I know it might work too slow, or cause more pain...)


9 posted on 11/10/2010 9:02:51 AM PST by madison10
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To: Niuhuru

This is really an insult to our pets.


10 posted on 11/10/2010 9:03:16 AM PST by willk
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Well we wouldn't want anybody to DIE as a result of this, would we.

For the FDA, a drug has to be safe and effective.

I figure one outta two ain't bad here.

11 posted on 11/10/2010 9:03:26 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: madison10

Given how the survivors of the victims feel, I’m sure the inmates would prefer the currents methods to what the families of their victims would do to them.


12 posted on 11/10/2010 9:03:48 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Used by vets to kill animals.....hmmmm....animals......and?


13 posted on 11/10/2010 9:05:05 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Niuhuru

Who cares whether the drugs are “safe?” They are designed to kill the convicted killers. If the killer ends up dead, the drug is safe enough.


14 posted on 11/10/2010 9:05:21 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Niuhuru
I'll do it! I'm not a veterinarian, but I did grow up on a farm, so I know a bit about putting animals down. I'll even bring my own chemicals, primarily lead and nitrocellulose, with several different long- and hand-style “applicators”.
15 posted on 11/10/2010 9:05:29 AM PST by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: Niuhuru
Pneumatic Stunner. Not to be confused with a stuned bebber.

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16 posted on 11/10/2010 9:06:37 AM PST by Sax
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To: Niuhuru
Other states are watching closely and may well follow suit, but such a move is likely to face a challenge from human rights groups to ensure that it is safe to use.

Side effects may include death...

17 posted on 11/10/2010 9:06:37 AM PST by JRios1968 (What is the difference between 0bama and his dog, Bo? Bo has papers.)
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To: flowerplough

You see! This is what I’m talking about when I mention interdependency and communities working together!


18 posted on 11/10/2010 9:06:37 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: stefanbatory
Why don’t they use a high velocity injection of copper-jacketed lead?

I agree! Would you consider this sufficent?


19 posted on 11/10/2010 9:06:37 AM PST by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: Niuhuru
I'll never understand the left. They want doctors to assist suicide, but they can't trust the same doctors to execute a mass murdering rapist.

Just let Dr Kervorkian design the lethal injection. Nobody from the left can complain because everyone knows that Dr Kervorkian is a great humanitarian.
20 posted on 11/10/2010 9:07:52 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial. And Post-Partisan. Agent Of Hope And Change. EVER.)
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To: Sax

My apologies to all who still believe in the Meat Case Fairy delivering meat in small cellophane wrapped packages.


21 posted on 11/10/2010 9:08:09 AM PST by Sax
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To: Question Liberal Authority

It certainly is a warped perspective.


22 posted on 11/10/2010 9:08:49 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru
Other states are watching closely and may well follow suit, but such a move is likely to face a challenge from human rights groups to ensure that it is safe to use.

Well, that stands to reason. We wouldn't want anyone getting hurt.

23 posted on 11/10/2010 9:11:23 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Niuhuru
Tempting, but I think that it would be better to do a hanging.

Use a hemp rope so the hippies will be cool with it.

24 posted on 11/10/2010 9:12:22 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Niuhuru

Lectricity works just fine thank you! ! !


25 posted on 11/10/2010 9:13:21 AM PST by DeaconRed (I sold all my Gold and bought lead. . . Lots of lead. . . .)
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To: willk

Exactly! If it’s good enough for animals, why not give it to the animals on death row?


26 posted on 11/10/2010 9:17:30 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: stefanbatory

So this is an English newspaper with this kind of headline insinuating that we are sooo brutal in Oklahoma and elsewhere.

Well I say that “drawing and quartering” has a nice ring to it.


27 posted on 11/10/2010 9:18:08 AM PST by .45ACP CPD
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To: Niuhuru

how appropriate!


28 posted on 11/10/2010 9:20:04 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012)
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To: Niuhuru
Don't just bring the kids. Bring the picnic baskets and sing hymns. That's exactly what we did at a saner time in our history. It took less than two decades of consistent, predictable enforcement to turn Fort Smith from one of the wildest, most crime infested towns on the frontier to one of the safest.

Historic gallows at Ft. Smith

29 posted on 11/10/2010 9:20:17 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Niuhuru

I dont see what the big deal is. Humans and pets take a lot of the same drugs, just in different dosages.

Our dogs, for instance, take the same allergy medications that we do. When they get an infection, they are sometimes given Keflex, a common antibiotic.

The fact remains that people executed by the gummint in this country get a much less painful death than most people.


30 posted on 11/10/2010 9:21:24 AM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: .45ACP CPD

I just don’t understand why hanging is not still part of the equation. It’s quick, it’s simple, and you can keep reusing the rope for a long time. Next best are using reloaded cartridges for firing squads. Cheap, accurate, and effective. It really is that simple!!!!


31 posted on 11/10/2010 9:22:40 AM PST by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Say Nope To The Hope Dope in '12!!!!!)
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To: Niuhuru

What’s wrong with pentothal and potassium? Put in a central line and inject a big bolus. Both drugs are cheap and commonly available. The condemned would be sedated for the central line and the pentothal and K would finish him/her off in 3-4 minutes.


32 posted on 11/10/2010 9:22:43 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Retired Greyhound

most animals would die of old age on the human ‘death row’.


33 posted on 11/10/2010 9:24:35 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Niuhuru

If that Judge won’t allow the people of OK to ban sharia law, then stone or behead the inmates.


34 posted on 11/10/2010 9:29:36 AM PST by Never on my watch (Never let a kid play with matches or run with scissors; and never give a gavel to a Democrat!)
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To: stefanbatory
Why don’t they use a high velocity injection of copper-jacketed lead?

I have often thought a shaped charged, like those used on antitank weapons would be the best. Just place a cheap antitank warhead like those used by the RPG-7 in the back of a headrest. Stand well back and push the button.

The jet of molten copper from a shaped charge is moving at 14 km/s. A nerve impulse only moves at no more than .1 km/s and usually quite a bit slower. There is no pain since the entire brain is vaporized before the first nerve impulse recording the explosion is received. No chance of a botched execution. Cleanup would be a bit nasty. But just do the dead in a hole and bulldoze the spoil back in once you are done.
35 posted on 11/10/2010 9:30:55 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

I have a one word response for you, a solution tried and proven: Guillotine


36 posted on 11/10/2010 9:33:07 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

PETA’s pretty good at killing animals in massive quantities so they must be doing it effectively and inexpensively. Maybe contract the proceedings out to them?


37 posted on 11/10/2010 9:33:15 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Never on my watch
Worth repeating:

If that Judge won’t allow the people of OK to ban sharia law, then stone or behead the inmates.

38 posted on 11/10/2010 9:35:14 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 659 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Niuhuru

Watching my old Siberian Husky fade away in a flash when injected(at which I wept openly), I have wondered why we’re not using this stuff by the gallon in state prisons.


39 posted on 11/10/2010 9:35:49 AM PST by lurk (A)
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To: Niuhuru

After being with the dear old lab, Stewart, during his last moments, I always said that was the way I wanted to go.

It only takes seconds and there was no indication of any pain.

Very peaceful and sad.


40 posted on 11/10/2010 9:36:24 AM PST by altura
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To: dockkiller
Isn’t it used to kill someone? How important is safety here?

I wonder if the government has given someone a grant to study the long term side effects. I would like to see the warning label.

41 posted on 11/10/2010 9:37:41 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Niuhuru

So?


42 posted on 11/10/2010 9:37:47 AM PST by Duke1954 (I'll be back, again and again and again and again and again and again and again)
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To: Niuhuru

So?


43 posted on 11/10/2010 9:37:56 AM PST by Duke1954 (I'll be back, again and again and again and again and again and again and again)
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To: Niuhuru
If someone is imprisoned for life and can do no more harm to the innocent - they should not be deliberately killed.

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God of Compassion,
You let your rain fall on the just and the unjust.
Expand and deepen our hearts
so that we may love as You love,
even those among us
who have caused the greatest pain by taking life.
For there is in our land a great cry for vengeance
as we fill up death rows and kill the killers
in the name of justice, in the name of peace.
Jesus, our brother,
you suffered execution at the hands of the state
but you did not let hatred overcome you.
Help us to reach out to victims of violence
so that our enduing love may help them heal.
Holy Spirit of God,
You strengthen us in the struggle for justice.
Help us to work tirelessly
for the abolition of state-sanctioned death
and to renew our society in its very heart
so that violence will be no more. Amen.

—Sister Helen Prejean, C.S.J.

44 posted on 11/10/2010 9:38:11 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: stefanbatory

Infecting them with hempen fever would work


45 posted on 11/10/2010 9:49:01 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: jacknhoo

“If someone is imprisoned for life and can do no more harm to the innocent - they should not be deliberately killed.”

And you’ll volunteer to cage, clean and feed ‘em for the rest o’ their natural days?


46 posted on 11/10/2010 9:49:23 AM PST by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: Voter#537

But, but, we must conserve our limited resources!


47 posted on 11/10/2010 9:53:04 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Heck, when you think about it, we could turn it into a festival of sorts, picnics, small games, and cheerleaders.


48 posted on 11/10/2010 9:54:00 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: jacknhoo

Lifetime inmates can end up getting paroled. If there is irrefutable cast iron evidence, then killers have no business getting a life sentence.


49 posted on 11/10/2010 9:55:29 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Sax

That was my thought. If we’re going to look at how we kill animals as a solution, why not use slaughterhouse methods? Do they still use sledgehammers? That would work. Of course, if they’re muslim, we should respect that and keep them halal. Slit their throats and let them bleed to death.


50 posted on 11/10/2010 9:56:33 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Hey D. C., tax increases are not spending cuts. Nor do tax cuts constitute increased spending.)
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