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Perry calls Social Security bankrupt 'Ponzi scheme'
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 11/10/10 | Josh Baugh

Posted on 11/10/2010 10:23:46 AM PST by LibertarianInExile

...Calling the New Deal “a glut of federal programs,” Perry said the creation of the Social Security system did very little to end the Great Depression...“Unfortunately, the New Deal has essentially become the third rail of American politics that indiscriminately kills the political careers of any leader bold enough to criticize it or any program it created,” he said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: constitution; rickperry; ttc; vaccines
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To: isthisnickcool
"Perry is not a conservative. Never was and never will be."

You more than typify the "circular firing squad" mentality of one too many members here. Its fratricide, and highly unjustified.

I'm sure if Ronald Reagan was in his political prime right now, you would call him a RINO too.

61 posted on 11/11/2010 7:42:52 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Carry_Okie
I'm sooo impressed...NOT!

You obviously are more impressed with yourself than others are...and you didn't bother to relate the mistakes you've made...IF you acknowledge you've ever made a mistake.

62 posted on 11/11/2010 8:37:05 AM PST by lonestar
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To: lormand
I'm sure if Ronald Reagan was in his political prime right now, you would call him a RINO too.

I made it clear in one of my previous posts that Rick Perry has no business being in the same office Ronald Reagan held. You are comparing Rick Perry to Ronald Reagan! LOL! That is just nutty. Perry never had an original idea in his life. But he sure has latched on to some extremely stupid ideas others generated. Like the TTC and Guardasil. Which on their face are very aggressive attempts to take by force land in the case of the TTC and liberty in the case of the boneheaded Guardasil debacle. Besides attempting to stomp on individual property rights Perry attempted to mandate what drugs Texan females HAD to ingest. How 1984 is that? And it is stunning that Perry complains in his book that the federal government "dictates what kinds of guns we can own, what kinds of prayers we are allowed to say" and "what doctor we can see." Perry also says "We are tired of being told how much salt we can put on our food, what windows we can buy for our house, what kind of cars we can drive, what kind of guns we can own, what kind of prayers we are allowed to say and where we can say them, what political speech we are allowed to use to elect candidates, what kind of energy we can use, what kind of food we can grow, what doctor we can see, and countless other restrictions on our right to live as we see fit." Sounds good but this comes from a man who tried to FORCE Guardasil on Texas females at the stroke of an executive order? Give me a break! He is spouting talking points that he thinks will get him in to the big show. He has never pushed the types of things he mentions in his book before.

Perry was astonishly stupid politically by supporting both the TTC and the Guardasil issues. The only way Perry got past both of these things without losing elections was the embarrasing candidates that have ran against him. Perry has never been challenged by someone that could come close to beating him. He has always been elected as the lesser of two evils. Note that even Texas Farm Bureau agreed with that point and supported Perry while holding their nose after Perry vetoed a bill that would protect Texas farmers from land takings by eminent domain via constructs like the Trans-Texas Corridor that Perry supported. So Perry knows how it works when a crappy candidate runs against a horrible one. That's how he has stayed in office. Because of that I would not be surprised to see him attempt to try to run against Obama. Perry would be once again the t*rd sandwich we would prefer against Obama the douche bag.

Nope, Perry is no Ronald Reagan. Not even close. Reagan was the master of his own thoughts and words. He was a genius who understood America and he could communicate that understanding as easily as he breathed. Perry, by contrast, has displayed no such abilities past sticking his thumb in to the political wind and then following it. Which is exactly what he is doing now. Reagan a RINO? Absurd! Reagan was no more a RINO that Perry is a conservative.

63 posted on 11/11/2010 8:44:47 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: lonestar
I'm sooo impressed...NOT!

I accept the compliment with pleasure.

64 posted on 11/11/2010 8:52:53 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: lonestar
You obviously are more impressed with yourself than others are.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

65 posted on 11/11/2010 8:54:45 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie
more impressed with yourself

The key word is "more"...and I think it fits.

66 posted on 11/11/2010 9:26:54 AM PST by lonestar
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To: lonestar
The key word is "more"...and I think it fits.

You have shown no indication of thinking at all.

I could have pinged any number of FReepers to put you in your place, but since you've been here so long and still cannot read a source document, it is evident you are incapable of benefiting from it.

67 posted on 11/11/2010 10:39:08 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: isthisnickcool
None of your points associate liberal policies with Rick Perry, unless you suggest that signing into law a tax increase qualifies as one.

As such, I present you Ronald Reagan. So according to your logic, Ronald Reagan was a RINO.

Is there any other hallucinations that you folks can share with us besides the mindless TTC/Guardasil montra we read/hear?

We can argue the merits of the TTC, but to put an ideological label on it as liberal is mind boggleing. The entire purpose was to relieve highway congestion on existing highways, make interstate travel easier, truck goods faster, and having a major cooridore for imports/exports from the Mexican border.

The Guardasil issue was scrapped as it should have been due to the load outcry from it, but it does not define it as a RINO issue, but rather a public safety issue. Authoritarian? Perhaps, but Conservatism and Liberalism both harbor authoritarian ideas.

So now that the TTC and Guardasil are the only things you guys can try to latch on, is demonizing him as not thinking on his own etc, the only thing you have left?

Enemies of Sarah Palin are saying the same about her, but I know that I never get disappointed by some here, like yourself that are quick to jump into the "Circular Firing Squad".

68 posted on 11/11/2010 10:45:33 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: lormand
It is not conservative to attempt to take property without due compensation. It is not conservative to basically hold Texas females down and force them to be vaccinated. Nor is it conservative to allow the border to remain wide open.

Rick Perry is no conservative. He did these things. Rick Perry. That is who we are discussing.

Discussing these things with you is exactly like discussing any issue with any liberal Democrat. You bring in things that are not part of the discussion as you just did with Sarah Palin so you can make a point that has nothing to do with Rick Perry or his history.

Have you ever met Rick Perry? I have. He is a lightweight but people support him. Why? Because he has been time and again the lesser of two bad choices. I saw Bob Perry while visiting another friend in Nassau Bay a few days before the election. Bob has given major bucks to Republicans and Rick Perry. In Perry's case because White was such a bad alternative.

The fact that Perry attempted to steal land from Texans and that he tried to force injections of drugs on Texas females are facts. Facts that you will have to deal with if Perry tried to seek the office of president.

So now that the TTC and Guardasil are the only things you guys can try to latch on.."

These two things are more than enough. Much more than enough to keep a very close eye on Perry.

We are not going to agree about Perry so let's stop wasting time here.

69 posted on 11/11/2010 11:06:03 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: isthisnickcool
"It is not conservative to attempt to take property without due compensation. It is not conservative to basically hold Texas females down and force them to be vaccinated."

"The fact that Perry attempted to steal land from Texans and that he tried to force injections of drugs on Texas females are facts."

Why the heavy use of hyperbole? Can't you make your argument by using facts and truth?

And Yes, I too have met Rick Perry, but I never carry the sense that I am smarter or better than someone when I meet them.

70 posted on 11/11/2010 11:12:29 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Professional Engineer
"This was from before the election right? He’s been safely re-elected and has already put away the conservative stripes for another 4 years."

Yes, his book was written before the election which was last week. He has it in writing, so he stands by it.

However, that will not keep the fratricide goon squad here on FreeRepublic from critizing someone who stated something they agree with 100%.

71 posted on 11/11/2010 11:22:49 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: The Theophilus

I understand that the Texas Governor is not as powerful as some, and yeah, is downright weak in a lot of ways. 12 years of appointments from Perry ought to mean a little more to me, though.

Also, more importantly, you note that Perry has the line item veto after you intimate that gubernatorial reduction of state government and budgets are not possible under the Constitution of the state of Texas. Don’t you see a little problem with your declaration regarding gubernatorial prerogatives given that line item veto, which is a darn powerful tool? Just because most governors don’t use the line item veto doesn’t mean a conservative wouldn’t. Unfortunately, we just don’t have a hell of a lot of conservatives in office. And Perry sure hasn’t been one to cut the fat. Just consider the alphabet soup in Texas, starting with TEA, THECB, TLC, Texas Railroad Commission, umpteen redundant state university system bureaucracies, Texas Sunset Commission, etc...seems to me there are a lot of state payroll dollars for a conservative to excise, and that has not been tops on his to-do list. Heck, it’s not even tops of his talking points. I’m pretty sure hot air in the form of faux-secessionista speak and faux-pro-A&M Bonfire talk come way first on his teleprompter.


72 posted on 11/11/2010 11:26:03 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: Carry_Okie; lonestar

“Straightened out idiots who can’t simply look up a FReeper page and check out the links before posting.”

Ouch. That must have hurt, ls. 8^)


73 posted on 11/11/2010 11:27:57 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Let not anyone be fooled. Gov. Goodhair is NOT a Conservative. He's a soulless RINO hack.
74 posted on 11/11/2010 11:30:40 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: lormand
but I never carry the sense that I am smarter or better than someone when I meet them.

Uh huh. You seem to have no problem doing so with people you have never met: "hallucinations, Circular Firing Squad, idiots,freaking insane".

Perry pushed the TTC which would have taken Texans land without due compensation. He went even farther than that and vetoed the eminent domain bill that was supported by Texas Farmers. A bill that would have protected Texas landowners from the kind of takings Perry was pushing with the TTC. He attempted by executive order to force Texan females to take a particular drug. These things will be hung around his neck. And rightly so. You may not like it but that is the way it is and will be. Try to spin it any way you want Rick Perry is no conservative. The truth is that Rick Perry supported the TTC, he was at the center of it. The truth is that Rick Perry by his own hand attempted to force Texan girls to take a drug. A very questionable drug.

These things were just 3 short years ago. Today Perry is comporting himself as some kind of conservative. Wrote himself a book saying things he was not saying in 2007. Why? He is a career politician and is doing so for political gain. I don't buy it when Perry acts like a conservative. A lot of people don't and for good reason. You and I can go back and forth all day on this and that won't change.

75 posted on 11/11/2010 11:39:42 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’m not impresssed by you...and not alone.


76 posted on 11/11/2010 11:52:45 AM PST by lonestar
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To: isthisnickcool
"Perry pushed the TTC which would have taken Texans land without due compensation."

Just as a start, your first statement is a flat out lie!

Let's try this...validate the above quote.

I stand by the "hallucinations, Circular Firing Squad, idiots,freaking insane" comments because nothing else can explain the lies comming from the anti-Perry crowd...of which you have lots of company, i.e., stinking liberals.

Why stop there?

Rick Perry is for killing dogs.

Sure coyotes are not dogs, but I cannot help but to lie about Rick Perry

77 posted on 11/11/2010 11:52:53 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Republic of Texas
Let not anyone be fooled. Gov. Goodhair is NOT a Conservative. He's a soulless RINO hack.

Some here believe that Rick Perry is a conservative. Maybe we should take a quick poll? Is this something a conservative would do? By himself? By executive order? With absolutely no input from the people he represents? How can Perry in his book point negatively at an overbearing Washington when he made a decision all by himself to require the the use of Guardasil?

Is the executive order at the link above something a conservative would do?

78 posted on 11/11/2010 11:55:10 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Ouch. That must have hurt,

Considering the source, not at all.

79 posted on 11/11/2010 11:56:38 AM PST by lonestar
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To: isthisnickcool

Nope.


80 posted on 11/11/2010 12:13:05 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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