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Is Joe Miller Trying to Disenfranchise Alaskans?(CBS News)
cBS News ^ | November 11, 2010 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 11/11/2010 3:34:25 PM PST by mdittmar

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To: mdittmar

Is CBS trying to disenfranchise voters? You betcha!


121 posted on 11/11/2010 10:25:11 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: redpoll

You don’t have to tell me Miller lost this fight with the voters, and even before the count. Otherwise “write in” wouldn’t have more voters than Miller.


122 posted on 11/11/2010 10:28:47 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Buck-I-Guy
The voters knew before the election that the spelling had to be correct. The Murkowski campaign spent alot of money to teach the voters the proper spelling. The law was clear to everyone beforehand. If after all that they still could not spell the name correctly than that is too bad.

If the voter didn't care enough to spell the name correctly, why should Alaskans waste their tax dollars to count them?

123 posted on 11/11/2010 11:19:37 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Germans in 1932 thought they were voting for change too.)
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To: Williams

Think you ought to review what deals Murk made with the dems, unions, and indigenous people of Alaska before anyone cries foul on Miller.
And where her money came from.


124 posted on 11/11/2010 11:27:28 PM PST by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans! - Thuffering thuccotash!)
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To: hobbes1

She won big with the Moocher vote. Alostka will soon run out of OPM.


125 posted on 11/11/2010 11:39:21 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Sola Veritas

The new Alaskan motto...Theres Gold in them there Bills.


126 posted on 11/11/2010 11:44:32 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: hobbes1

I was away for a while. I was going to answer you but, after reading the other answers and your broken record protestations, I realize it would be useless.


127 posted on 11/12/2010 12:24:14 AM PST by snowtigger (.)
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To: mdittmar

None of my English teachers ever gave me credit for “intent” on spelling.


128 posted on 11/12/2010 1:05:20 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: hobbes1

I think the problem with voter intent is the voter is no longer the person deciding how there vote will be cast. If I as a voter fill out my ballot according to whatever law covers my election, I have decided who gets my vote. On the other had, if I don’t fill it out correctly and the standard is “voter intent” someone other than me is deciding who gets my vote. I then have to ask, who are the ones disenfranchising voters. Those that want the vote to be clear and unambiguous, or those that want to decide for the voter.


129 posted on 11/12/2010 4:30:07 AM PST by micwise
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To: hobbes1
It only says 'last name' not 'last name "explicitly spelled" ' and a write in ballot by it's nature assume human eyes doing the reading and counting.

Is her last name Murcowsky?

No more than my last name is Pelleteer.

The law is the law, and it says nothing about "human eyes" or some mystical divination of voter intent.

130 posted on 11/12/2010 4:44:55 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Jackson57
Are you being a dope on purpose?
“as they appear on the write-in declaration of candidacy”

Are you being a liberal on purpose ?

I believe you left out the conjunction and the clause that follows it.

Or perhaps, like the leftists, you believe that the RTKABA depnds on a 'well regulated militia' ?

You are after all, using the same deceptive focus on the part of the whole that suits you.

131 posted on 11/12/2010 6:05:52 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: mvpel

Nor does it definitively address a necessary level of exactitude.


132 posted on 11/12/2010 6:06:42 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: MestaMachine

I dislike Murkowski very much but in the closing days of the campaign, Miller got owned that is reality, whether fair or foul. Losing to a write in? His campaign crumbled.

Hope he wins the recount.


133 posted on 11/12/2010 6:09:26 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: snowtigger

Yes.

Three or four actual reasonable people on this thread, amidst an amazing display of Party over Principle.


134 posted on 11/12/2010 6:09:40 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: mdittmar

Joe never had a chance. I said so here 2 weeks before election day when that boneheaded poll-freeping and cover-up incdent came to light. Miller inexplicably tried to get a judge to block the release of that info, instead of just releasing it himself right after the primary so it would have been long forgotten by voting day. So instead it was released just when he could afford it least—and it decimated him. We saw a 22-pt crash in 3 days in our snap poll after the release, and knew then it was done (Lisa’s deft exploitation of loose rules for Natives was too much to overcome in the end). If Miller wants to be viable to challenge Begich for re-election, he should try and end this useless fight quickly.


135 posted on 11/12/2010 6:33:56 AM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook,com/StandWithArizona)
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To: hobbes1

Does it really mention spelling?

That depends on the meaning of the phrase “as it appears on the write-in declaration of candidacy.”

IMHO, the “appearance” of the name is the issue. DOes it appear to be Myrcowscee?

The legislation should have stated that spelling is mandatory in plane terms. That way, the interpretation of the law is less open to question.

Does anyone know what the legislative debate history says on this statute?


136 posted on 11/12/2010 6:41:54 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: mdittmar
If the name on a write-in ballot does not exactly match the name of the candidate, they say, it doesn't count.

No CBS news, the LAW says it doesn't.

OTOH What else would anyone expect from the FORGERY STATION? Obviously they have no respect for law or honesty or what's right!

137 posted on 11/12/2010 6:41:54 AM PST by Sal (Liberals think their BETTERS are stupid, crazy or both. It's PROJECTION.)
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To: mdittmar
If the name on a write-in ballot does not exactly match the name of the candidate, they say, it doesn't count.

No CBS news, the LAW says it doesn't.

OTOH What else would anyone expect from the FORGERY STATION? Obviously they have no respect for law or honesty or what's right!

138 posted on 11/12/2010 6:41:54 AM PST by Sal (Liberals think their BETTERS are stupid, crazy or both. It's PROJECTION.)
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To: hobbes1
To help you answer your own question (11) has been slightly reformatted below as applicable to this senate race.

(11) A vote for a write-in candidate, ...
shall be counted ...
if the name,
as it appears,
on the write-in declaration of candidacy,
of the candidate or the last name of the candidate

is written in the space provided.

139 posted on 11/12/2010 6:46:22 AM PST by RileyD, nwJ (proud husband, father, and grandfather)
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Sorry about the double post. Let’s make CBS sorry enough they tried this propaganda political attack that the Forgery Station will think twice about their next propaganda attack on the right!


140 posted on 11/12/2010 6:46:43 AM PST by Sal (CBS is the FORGERY STATION!)
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