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In-state tuition for illegal immigrants is preserved with California Supreme Court ruling [Updated]
LA Times ^ | 15 NOV 2010 | Maura Dolan

Posted on 11/15/2010 11:06:45 AM PST by Hoodat

The California Supreme Court decided unanimously Monday that illegal immigrants may continue to be eligible for in-state tuition rates at the state's colleges and universities rather than pay the higher rates charged to those who live out of state.

In a ruling written by Justice Ming W. Chin, one of the panel's more conservative members, the state high court said a California law that guarantees the lower tuition for students who attend California high schools for at least three years and graduate does not conflict with a federal prohibition on giving illegal immigrants educational benefits based on residency.

California is one of several states that permit illegal immigrants to take advantage of lower college tuition for students who attend high school and graduate in state. About 25,000 illegal immigrants are estimated to receive in-state tuition rates in California.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bloggers; california; education; illegals; instatetuition; judicialfiat
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I am now boycotting anything from California. I now ask at the grocery store before purchasing produce. And my wife has just crossed San Diego off a list of possible convention sites for her industry.
1 posted on 11/15/2010 11:06:52 AM PST by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

Shocking development in Kalifornia


2 posted on 11/15/2010 11:09:06 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Hoodat

It seems that after this ruling that out of state students should demand the same rights as illegal aliens and pay only the in-state tuition rate. After all, isn’t equal protection under the law in effect here?


3 posted on 11/15/2010 11:19:54 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: DAC21

Easy solution for out of state students, lie and say you are illegal.


4 posted on 11/15/2010 11:20:28 AM PST by ully2 (ully)
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To: ully2

[ Easy solution for out of state students, lie and say you are illegal. ]

Hey it worked for the TOTUS, he claimed he was indonesian so he could get immigrant grant money. (One of the reasons his school financial aid records are sealed).


5 posted on 11/15/2010 11:23:20 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Hoodat

Getting mention on Rush.


6 posted on 11/15/2010 11:23:42 AM PST by Excellence (Buy Progresso, take off the label, write "not halal," mail to Campbell's soup company.)
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To: Excellence

Seal the borders of California and let them simmer in their own stew.


7 posted on 11/15/2010 11:26:06 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Hoodat
So another words, if I am a resident of Pennsylvania (I am) and want to go to University of California (system) than I have to pay the additional cost but those from Mexico do not. I think if I was a college aged student (I am not anymore), I would challenge this law by saying I am an Illegal Alien from Pennsylvania. If more students did this, it might just work.....lol.
8 posted on 11/15/2010 11:29:35 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I think the court is saying is that if you are a resident of Pennsylvania who happened to have (illegally) graduated from a California High School, only then would you be eligible for in-state tuition. That’s the pretense of consistency that this court decision offers. Of course there’s no logical reason why someone from Pennsylvania would illegally attend high school in California, but there is a huge incentive for someone who entered this country illegally to get a free high school education in California. And that incentive has just increased substantially with the offer of subsidized college education costs.


9 posted on 11/15/2010 11:40:08 AM PST by Hoodat ( .For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Hoodat

Justice Ming Chin, a Pete Wilson appointed Judge was also one we at the ranch voted against this past election cycle, due to his Liberal perspectives. I don’t know at this point if this “Judge” was voted out, or not, but as Californian’s as a rule vote the opposite of Mrs. RQSR, and myself, I’d bet he still rides his pony.


10 posted on 11/15/2010 11:40:15 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Hoodat

I found the information. Justice Ming Chin was retained by the electorate of California by 62% vote.


11 posted on 11/15/2010 11:47:39 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Hoodat

California just boggles the mind on everything they do. ILLEGALS should not be allowed in schools or colleges AT ALL.


12 posted on 11/15/2010 11:50:32 AM PST by sigzero
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To: ully2

Won’t work; you’d have to lie and say that you went to high school in California for at least 3 years.


13 posted on 11/15/2010 11:53:27 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Hoodat

CA will go over the economic cliff all while spending $10+ billion per year on illegals.


14 posted on 11/15/2010 12:05:55 PM PST by umgud
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To: Hoodat

I’m kind of surprised this case was even heard in California, if the description here is accurate. How can a California state court render a decision on whether a state policy conflicts with Federal law? Doesn’t this case belong in the Federal court system?


15 posted on 11/15/2010 12:17:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Good point - (and good tagline.)

"Don't touch my junk, Bro!"


16 posted on 11/15/2010 12:23:14 PM PST by Hoodat ( .For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Hoodat

Can and will this be appealed?


17 posted on 11/15/2010 12:28:11 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Hoodat

I will never understand how the “illegal” part doesn’t get them deported. Seriously, if that mindset is acceptable what else matters?


18 posted on 11/15/2010 12:28:11 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Defund 2010. Repeal 2012.)
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To: Hoodat

Being a legal citizen earns you zip in this nation.

How far we have come .. towards a socialist state.

.. and thugs in black robes could care less who pays in the long run. They got theirs.


19 posted on 11/15/2010 12:29:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Hoodat

why should I have to obey the law when they don’t have too?


20 posted on 11/15/2010 12:32:54 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: sigzero; All
It doesn't boggle the mind at all if you realize that illegals are already the majority in California.And Illegals vote democrat as the elections there showed.

So if we all want to be like California or even worse then keep letting illegals in to the U.S.

If this doesn't put it into people's heads that stopping illegal immigration has to be the number one priority and issue then the U.S. is doomed. If we don't deport all illegals NOW all the U.S.A will be to the left of California soon.

We all have to concentrate on one thing at a time. And this is the thing we have to solve first. And Tancredo is the only one saying this.

21 posted on 11/15/2010 12:33:44 PM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: Hoodat

“I am now boycotting anything from California.”

If that is the case, you should also boycott anything from Texas as Texas has the exact same law regarding In-State Tuition for illegal aliens.


22 posted on 11/15/2010 12:37:32 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: NormsRevenge

Being a citizen earns you LESS THAN zip. YOU have to pay federal and state taxes. They don’t.


23 posted on 11/15/2010 12:39:56 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Democrat_media

“It doesn’t boggle the mind at all if you realize that illegals are already the majority in California.”

Could you please provide a source that states that the majority of the people in California are illegal aliens?


24 posted on 11/15/2010 12:41:21 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
You are correct. No more Texas Ruby Red Grapefruit for me. What in the heck has Rick Perry been doing?

Number of illegal immigrants getting in-state tuition for Texas colleges rises

25 posted on 11/15/2010 12:45:56 PM PST by Hoodat ( .For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Hoodat

Unbelievable. Oh, but the state is broke and is overdue on debt backpayments to the federal treasury??

Suck eggs, Cali. Not on our dime!!!!


26 posted on 11/15/2010 12:54:15 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Hoodat

Look out for Rick Perry. He can talk the Tea Party Line, but he signs bills that grant in-state tuition to illegal aliens, forces adults in the back seat of cars to wear seat belts, bans tanning for teenagers, mandates steroid testing for high school athletes and attempted to pass legislation that would force 12 year old girls to be vaccinated against an STD.

And now Rick is looking to run for president.


27 posted on 11/15/2010 12:56:24 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: sigzero

*California just boggles the mind on everything they do. ILLEGALS should not be allowed in schools or colleges AT ALL*

I sure agree with you!. With new Gov Jerry Brown telling all the illegals, that it doesn’t matter if you are legal or illegal, the state will pay for their college educations.
What I want to know is, where are the billions to do this going to come from? The state is now $19 billion in the red.


28 posted on 11/15/2010 12:56:41 PM PST by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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To: Hoodat

Well, that has appeal written all over it.


29 posted on 11/15/2010 12:56:46 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Hoodat
"I am now boycotting anything from California."

And you should, along with everyone else who doesn't live in this bass-ackwards state...

30 posted on 11/15/2010 1:07:43 PM PST by Beaten Valve
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

By whom? Moonbeam is still the state’s AG and Ahhnold und Maria probably love the ruling....


31 posted on 11/15/2010 1:10:30 PM PST by Postman
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Sneak across the border (with Oregon, Nevada, NM, etc.), and study for below minimum wage.


32 posted on 11/15/2010 1:15:12 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: AuntB; Liz

Did you see this ???


33 posted on 11/15/2010 1:16:07 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: trumandogz
If that is the case, you should also boycott anything from Texas as Texas has the exact same law regarding In-State Tuition for illegal aliens.

These people don't know this?

lol...

34 posted on 11/15/2010 1:23:30 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: sigzero

I’ve said the same thing many times myself. Still, what do you do with those kids when the Fed/Gov refuses to send their mom and dad back to their nation of origin?

We’re screwed blued and tattooed. So are other states BTW. The offspring of illegal aliens are flooding schools nationwide.

Nobody is standing up to the federal government and telling it to get stuffed.


35 posted on 11/15/2010 1:30:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: dragnet2

They do not want to know, or they find if much more easy to rag on Democrats in California, than they do Republicans in Texas for passing the exact same law.

I think they call that Cognitive Dissonance.


36 posted on 11/15/2010 1:33:35 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Hoodat

CA will will be a liability to the rest of the US in many areas. We all pay the price for their policies and open border agenda.


37 posted on 11/15/2010 1:35:53 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

“CA will will be a liability to the rest of the US in many areas. We all pay the price for their policies and open border agenda.”

As will Texas.


38 posted on 11/15/2010 1:39:44 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Hoodat
I am now boycotting anything from California

Ya' know you're painting with a pretty broad brush there, pard. There still are a lot of us conservative types here in CA, including Jim Thompson and FR.

39 posted on 11/15/2010 2:04:15 PM PST by GunsAndBibles
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To: napscoordinator
"I would challenge this law by saying I am an Illegal Alien from Pennsylvania."

Actually, you raise a good question, facetious or not. I have not yet seen the entire opinion published online. But, it will be interesting to see if the opinion carves out any residency requirements for the illegals. If it doesn't, I'm not sure how they could deny your posited scenario.

40 posted on 11/15/2010 2:06:29 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Hoodat
And they wonder why they are bankrupt.

Just don't ask the rest of the country to bail you out.

41 posted on 11/15/2010 2:25:17 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: rockinqsranch

Well, I can go on record stating I’m one of the 38%.

Men in Black, by Mark Levin is apropos here. The legislating from the bench has to be stopped.


42 posted on 11/15/2010 2:31:34 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Hoodat

So, out of state citizens of the United States must pay the much higher out of state tuition rate, simply because they didn’t attend high school in CA?

Sounds more than passingly strange to me.


43 posted on 11/15/2010 2:47:03 PM PST by unique
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To: GunsAndBibles

Jim Thompson? Why didn’t you say so? I thought he had relocated to Galt’s Gulch by now.


44 posted on 11/15/2010 2:48:05 PM PST by Hoodat ( .For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Hoodat
Welcome to the ‘Jerry Seinfeld Bizzaro World’. Where good is bad, up is down and such.....

I pray God will guide us through this Bizzaro world, and quick....(great couple of episodes by the way).

I vote, and now more than ever, I vote often like Acorn..hehehe

45 posted on 11/15/2010 2:55:38 PM PST by redshawk (Hey 0Dumbo, I'm scratching my nose too, and not with my index finger!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Notice how Mr. Chin “generously” noted that students from other US States can get in state tuition rates if they lived in CA for 3 years.. He said US citizens should get the same “rights” as illegals.


46 posted on 11/15/2010 3:04:28 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: ully2

“Easy solution for out of state students, lie and say you are illegal.”

and when they ask you for documents.... say “I don’t have any, I’m illegal.”

brilliant!!


47 posted on 11/15/2010 3:05:13 PM PST by bareford101 (For me, there is no difference in a tolerant, open mind and a cess pool. Both are open to filth.)
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To: Hoodat

The terrorists have, indeed, won.


48 posted on 11/15/2010 3:22:36 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: The Sons of Liberty
It seems that after this ruling that out of state students should demand the same rights as illegal aliens and pay only the in-state tuition rate. After all, isn’t equal protection under the law in effect here?

That's the part I do not understand, how can they tell someone from another state that they have to pay out-of-state tuition while undocumented aliens pay in state tuition. Would this be covered by the EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE Portion of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that prohibits discrimination by state government institutions. The clause grants all people "equal protection of the laws," which means that the states must apply the law equally and cannot give preference to one person or class of persons over another.

49 posted on 11/15/2010 3:28:28 PM PST by Lockbox (`)
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To: Hoodat

well maybe the court can pay the tuition bill then! Out of their own pocket!


50 posted on 11/15/2010 3:35:02 PM PST by tallyhoe
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