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Teacher Ejects Student For Anti-Gay Talk, Gets Suspended
AP via the Pittsburgh Channel ^ | November 15, 2010 | Jeff Karoub

Posted on 11/16/2010 4:39:39 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

DETROIT -- Michigan high school teacher Jay McDowell says he didn't like where the discussion was going after a student told his classmates he didn't "accept gays."

So McDowell kicked the boy out of class for a day.

In return, the teacher was suspended for a day without pay for violating the student's free speech rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepittsburghchannel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: arth; deptofeducation; gay; homoagendaalert; homosexualagenda; idontacceptgays; jaymcdowell; michigan; youshouldhomeschool
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1 posted on 11/16/2010 4:39:41 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It’s about time.


2 posted on 11/16/2010 4:45:03 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

guess ya cant call fags fags?


3 posted on 11/16/2010 4:46:26 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Sacajaweau

What’s about time?


4 posted on 11/16/2010 4:49:06 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is just a wild guess but ...

Detroit is a MoHamHead stronghold, right?

My guess is the boy who didn’t like homosexuals is a MoHamHead.

In the Leftist protected species hierarchy, MoHamHeads trump Homosexuals trump Women trump Blacks.

My guess is the teacher was punished for not knowing the correct Leftist protected species pecking order.


5 posted on 11/16/2010 4:54:32 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Why must schools use their time to discuss students’ feelings about homosexuality? Couldn’t they just repeat verb conjugations or memorize the dates of all the Chinese dynasties or Presidential elections?

I guess not ...


6 posted on 11/16/2010 4:54:32 AM PST by Tax-chick (Cry me a river, build yourself a bridge, and GET OVER IT.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
...a student told his classmates he didn't "accept gays."

There's a difference between 'tolerance' and 'acceptance' and it sounds like the student got it right.

7 posted on 11/16/2010 4:55:40 AM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: netmilsmom

Teacher getting suspended for violating student’s speech rights.


8 posted on 11/16/2010 4:56:06 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: netmilsmom

Teacher got fired....for saying I have no right to say something.


9 posted on 11/16/2010 5:00:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Westbrook

This was Howell, MI, a country town about 40 miles NW of Detroit.

The Detroit Free Press reported that the incident began when this teacher asked a girl in his class to remove her Confederate flag belt buckle. The boy asked, why does she have to take off her belt, but it’s ok to fly the “rainbow flag?” That’s what set things off.

My gosh, this guy teaches econ. He’s got way too much time on his hands—the very idea of worrying about some girl’s belt buckle!


10 posted on 11/16/2010 5:00:46 AM PST by sand lake bar
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To: sand lake bar

Wow, glad I was wrong.

The teacher should not only be suspended, he should be FIRED for telling the girl to remove an article of clothing. What was that teacher doing looking at her belt buckle anyway?

Get him OUT of there. Permanently.


11 posted on 11/16/2010 5:07:05 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Good.
Tired of the teachers promoting the homos and other deviants to our children.


12 posted on 11/16/2010 5:08:39 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

There are no free speech rights in school. If you don’t believe me, have a teacher pray a Christian prayer out loud


13 posted on 11/16/2010 5:13:44 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Fine, they want to discuss the wonders and enjoyment of being gay? Let them also discuss the physical effects of this abomination on the body.

Sorry, but I will never accept or approve of this perverted lifestyle. Throughout history, this utter contempt for the laws of God and nature have been one factor in many societies downfall.

Quit corrupting young people with this poison!


14 posted on 11/16/2010 5:16:12 AM PST by Artcore
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Here is a link to an article with more details on the incident.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101116/ap_on_re_us/us_anti_gay_class_speech_backlash_4


15 posted on 11/16/2010 5:29:01 AM PST by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: Westbrook

This happened in Howell, about 40 miles from Detroit. Grew up in Brighton, the town next to it and lived in Howell for several years. What is happening is Livingston county which was very conservative saw a huge influx of libs in the housing boom there. This teacher had his rainbow flag and was an activist, had the student said he didn’t like Mormons or Catholics in the exact same way he did with gays the teacher would have done nothing but agree with the kid. To be honest if the Howell School Board had a set of gonads amongst them this wacko teacher would have been fired.


16 posted on 11/16/2010 5:29:01 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: rwa265
Thanks for the link.

"I thought it was a really great, teachable moment," McDowell said of his decision to remove the student from class.

And I guess he got taught as well.

"Freedom of speech" does not mean you have "freedom from consequences" from what you say.

17 posted on 11/16/2010 5:36:00 AM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“It’s about time.”

My thoughts exactly!


18 posted on 11/16/2010 5:36:31 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The gay rights agenda has to end. Look America has to tolerate evrything under the sun BS, I do not have to tolerate a lifestyle that is not natural. The Law of Nature prevails, do animals cohabit with the same sex to bear offspring. God has intended men to cleave to women not to other men, how disgusting that the American Society desires US to be accepting and tolerating a personal choice.

Do I have to tolerate the rights of Muslims in the US for sharia Law. Look at the Amish and Mennonites how are they in American Society - pay taxes, social security and yet the are separate from society. If an amish or Mennonite breaks the law they are turned over to the apporpiate authorities. In their religious convictions are they banging down doors or demanding others to convert of have a jihad on their neighbors because of their beliefs.

maybe the tide of liberalism in Michigan is being overturned. It is about time that the crazy isms need to be ended in Michigan. Next step is to run the largest Muzzie population out of Dearborn, Michigan. Sharia Law is not in conjunction with the US Constitution. Okay the Muslims desire Sharaia Law, than the jews can have the year of Jubilee and all debts are wiped every 50 years. Funny if you give into religoius minorities to much they can take over your country. Ask Great britain and France about Muslim tolerance. Look at the Netherlands to see what has happened with sexual tolerance - the nation is a hellhole.


19 posted on 11/16/2010 5:46:20 AM PST by hondact200 ( Lincoln Freed the Enslaved. Obama Enslaves the Free. Obama is Americas Greatest Threat)
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To: RebelTXRose

My younger brother was cornered by a teacher in a similar way. When my brother said the homosexual lifestyle isn’t normal or healthy, the teacher asked what my brother would do if he learned his friend was gay.

“I’d stop being his friend.”

Then the teacher made the mistake of asking for a show of hands of those students who agreed. The majority of the class raised their hands.

Upstate NY.


20 posted on 11/16/2010 5:51:00 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: rwa265
From the linked article

McDowell has filed a complaint against the district over the discipline he received, but said Monday he primarily wants to "force the school to look at itself."

"I want to force adults to look at what situation we've created," he said. "I would really like us to be more aggressive in our policing of harassing and bullying."

I agree with him. If we were more agressive in harassing and bullying these adult faggots they would be less likely to be perverting our children.

The third law of homosexuality:

Any exposure of children to homosexuality is child abuse

21 posted on 11/16/2010 5:51:13 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Pittsburgh did their best to sanitize the article. Here’s more, including “teachable moment” and a 2nd student who asked to be suspended for the same reason....

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/15/1927781/mich-teacher-ejects-student-for.html


22 posted on 11/16/2010 6:04:58 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

I’m glad to see our kids are rebelling against the indoctrination in our schools. It gives me some hope for the future.


23 posted on 11/16/2010 6:10:52 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: John O

Makes me wonder why a male teacher forcing a female student to remove her belt buckle is not considered harassment.


24 posted on 11/16/2010 6:12:26 AM PST by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Ping


25 posted on 11/16/2010 6:12:34 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: Tax-chick

I agree, why was this under discussion? That is the point that is being missed here. I really don’t think it’s appropriate, it is something that is the purview of the home and family.


26 posted on 11/16/2010 6:14:02 AM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

ping for later


27 posted on 11/16/2010 6:14:27 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Teach” is also president of the Local. Already back to his job with a grievance filed. Just another opportunity for the slimemedia to trot out their pet meme that gay is good and anybody that says otherwise is a n intolerant hater. Time to remove these morons from teaching our youth and crush the unions. We better or we are fighting an uphill battle.


28 posted on 11/16/2010 6:19:36 AM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: rwa265

So the 14 year old who spoke at the school board meeting apparently knew he was gay at 9? Maybe he was just taking “girls have cooties” too seriously.


29 posted on 11/16/2010 6:22:09 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: John O

Several years ago I remember reading a comment from a wise FReeper:

“There is only one reason adults feel the need to teach children about homosexuality.”

It was true then, it’s true now and it’ll be true tomorrow.


30 posted on 11/16/2010 6:25:45 AM PST by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Tax-chick
This guy is being paid to teach Economics, not to discuss anyones personal opinions on homosexuality.
31 posted on 11/16/2010 6:28:17 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Tax-chick

Good question. Many assignments in high schools focus on the students’ feelings about ‘relevant’ social issues. Facts, figures, scientific laws, understanding economics, and learning how to write a complete sentence are on the backburner.


32 posted on 11/16/2010 6:31:11 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: sand lake bar
...My gosh, this guy teaches econ. He’s got way too much time on his hands—the very idea of worrying about some girl’s belt buckle!

Sounds like the class is a little out of control. I'm only an occaisonal sub, but, I find that very often the lil' darlings are eager to drive the class conversation away from whatever we are supposed to be discussing. (Oh, like I've never tried that)

I always publicly commend their ingenuity, but steer the discussion back to the topic at hand.

Small wonder I remain a substitute. I should be wasting more instructional time... Who knew?

33 posted on 11/16/2010 6:35:32 AM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: Lurker

Another insight into the Bizarro world of liberalism. The brave students who should be hailed as heros need counseling. The gay boy in total error as to his God given gender and purpose is the hero and medias poster boy. Ship of fools.


34 posted on 11/16/2010 6:42:04 AM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Why is this even being discussed in school?


35 posted on 11/16/2010 6:46:50 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Sacajaweau
In return, the teacher was suspended for a day without pay for violating the student's free speech rights.
36 posted on 11/16/2010 6:48:30 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: John O
"I want to force adults to look at what situation we've created," he said. "I would really like us to be more aggressive in our policing of harassing and bullying."

I agree. The adults in schools should stop bullying the inmates students over their political, religious, and social opinions. Just teach your freepin' subject, collect your salary, and get out of their lives.

37 posted on 11/16/2010 7:03:20 AM PST by Tax-chick (Cry me a river, build yourself a bridge, and GET OVER IT.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Tolerance/Diversity = Fascism


38 posted on 11/16/2010 7:04:56 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I want this "teacher suspension" thing to happen a million times if need be...until schools learn that one of their goals is to teach us that we have a right to our opinion.

Gays have been getting in our face and we're getting sick of it. Do your thing and leave us alone.

39 posted on 11/16/2010 7:10:32 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Bookmark.


40 posted on 11/16/2010 7:11:05 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Westbrook
Howell is nothing like that, Dearborn is the Arab hotbed of the Religion of Peace. In fact, Howell is known for its once infamous KKK.
41 posted on 11/16/2010 7:13:05 AM PST by Debi911
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To: hondact200
maybe the tide of liberalism in Michigan is being overturned.

The only thing needed to turn the homo-perversion tide is for decent, normal Americans to quit cowering and simply stand up.

42 posted on 11/16/2010 7:13:59 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Lurker

But while we’re on the subject of Economics, how much does the US spend on homosexuals who have contacted and continue to spread AIDS.


43 posted on 11/16/2010 7:14:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

I get it! I agree!


44 posted on 11/16/2010 7:21:13 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Westbrook

I like that and I am stealing it.


45 posted on 11/16/2010 7:34:22 AM PST by Chickensoup (In the Leftist protected species hierarchy, Islamics trump Homosexuals trump Women trump Blacks)
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To: netmilsmom

Good. I was surprised they didn’t suspend the student, which is what has been happening recently. Guess the schools got tired of losing law suits.


46 posted on 11/16/2010 8:01:30 AM PST by Roklok
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To: Larry Lucido; Sacajaweau

I was really confused there a second.

I had just finished reading about the kid from another district defending the teacher.

Sorry, mombrain.


47 posted on 11/16/2010 8:39:36 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Mr. Blonde; rightwingintelligentsia

You can watch the video of the 14yo boy testifying here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20101115/us_yblog_thelookout/gay-michigan-student-defends-suspended-teacher

He’s very talented at twisting and turning everything to fit his own agenda. It’s sad that, at such a young age, he has been led in the wrong direction.


48 posted on 11/16/2010 11:25:57 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: metmom; JenB; Clintonfatigued; little jeremiah; wagglebee

FYI


49 posted on 11/16/2010 11:27:25 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

You just never can figure what a public school is going to do next.

My guess is that if he hadn't kicked the kid out of class, someone would have complained and he would have gotten suspended for not doing it either.

50 posted on 11/16/2010 1:01:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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