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To: Sopater
Better propoganda and more intensive indoctrination is paying off.

No. Better arguments are paying off. Theories of creation that include a rib woman and talking snake just don't persuade. I'm sorry.

I really wish conservatives would stop putting so much effort into creationism. The conservative philosophy doesn't need creationism to order to work.

2 posted on 11/16/2010 9:42:29 AM PST by GeorgeSaden
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To: GeorgeSaden
I really wish conservatives would stop putting so much effort into creationism. The conservative philosophy doesn't need creationism to order to work.

Nor does science need the philosophy of evolutionism to work.
3 posted on 11/16/2010 9:44:01 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: GeorgeSaden
I really wish conservatives would stop putting so much effort into creationism.

Conservatives tend to prefer the purity of true, proven science. Theories should be based on fact and should be testable. Creationism aside, evolutionism falls way short of explaining our existance. At least with the belief in special creation, it logically follows that we have some purpose here and that we are ultimately accountable to our creator for our behavior in this life.
4 posted on 11/16/2010 9:48:14 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: GeorgeSaden
Theories of creation that include a rib woman and talking snake just don't persuade. I'm sorry.

When it comes to "miracles", the "theory of evolution" makes the biblical account look like a piker.
6 posted on 11/16/2010 9:57:58 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: GeorgeSaden
Theories of creation that include a rib woman and talking snake just don't persuade

How about a rock coming to life!!!

7 posted on 11/16/2010 10:06:38 AM PST by ontap
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To: GeorgeSaden

What better arguments?

There are only two ways we could have gotten here.

1. We were created.

2. All of existence came into being from nothing and with no cause (in violation of the Law of Causality).

Matter and energy started it all with the Big Bang. (In violation of the First Law of Thermodynamics and the Law of the Conservation of Matter)

Random Amino Acids somehow assembled themselves in a primordial mud puddle (from where it came, who knows) and became life (In violation of the Law of Biogenesis.... and incidentally in profound defiance of mathematic probability.)

And then that magic cell that was created in the mud puddle began adding information (even though information has never been shown to create itself.... it always comes from an intelligent source) steadily improving (in violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics) until it got to us... rational, thinking, emotional human beings.... and incidentally, how does human consciousness evolve out of mud.... they have no explanation for that.

Evolutionists (who are mostly atheists) believe everything happened naturally..... and in happening naturally the laws of nature were and are violated repeatedly.

Yeah.... we creationists are a bunch of morons.


8 posted on 11/16/2010 10:09:13 AM PST by schaef21
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To: GeorgeSaden
“I didn’t want children to ‘believe’ in science; I wanted them to understand it as an explanation for the natural world.”

Then you need to stop damaging science's credibility with junk science. John Q. Public doesn't know what to think about it after AGW and the myth of carbon as a pollutant, the Silent Spring that never happened, the population "bomb" that didn't kill off the human race, silicon implants that don't cause cancer, nuclear energy that really is not unsafe, saccharine, IUD's, etc., etc., etc. The politicization of science is doing great damage to the solid work thousands and thousands of non-political scientists do every day out of the sight of the public.

12 posted on 11/16/2010 10:57:52 AM PST by colorado tanker
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