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How to Kill the Meth Monster
nytimes.com ^ | ROB BOVETT | ROB BOVETT

Posted on 11/16/2010 9:00:05 PM PST by dr_who

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To: OrangeHoof

Actually, if anyone lives in any of the United STATES they are affected by the Combat Methanphetamine Act of 2005 which regulates that psuedoephedrine products are sold behind the counter with purchases limited to 3.6 grams per day or 9 grams per month allowed for each customer.

However, as stated in the article, the law had HUGE loopholes. The only way to stop the production of meth is to make psuedoephedrine products available only through prescription again.


21 posted on 11/16/2010 9:42:30 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Leaning Right
or adopt the Singapore solution - no more drugs available, as the dealers are all dead.

You can still buy drugs in Singapore. The difference is drug dealers are much more likely too shoot cops instead of surrendering and taking the rap for getting busted. And if they do catch you can always bribe your way out. Thailand is the same way.

22 posted on 11/16/2010 9:43:27 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: married21

If dependents are being demonstrably abused/neglected by a parent who is abusing legal or illegal drugs, then the state ought to step in if there are no family members who will take custody. But what makes this different from some other family problem? I’m sure that there are many drug-free households that you wouldn’t want kids to grow up in, too. Jail may supposedly “straighten out” the parent, but I don’t see how it can help the child.


23 posted on 11/16/2010 9:45:03 PM PST by dr_who
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To: umgud

I won’t ask how you know that.


24 posted on 11/16/2010 9:45:51 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Bobalu
I don't think drug laws work but this stuff is so dangerous that I'm glad it is illegal and thus harder to obtain.

It sounds like you're contradicting yourself in just one sentence.
25 posted on 11/16/2010 9:48:33 PM PST by dr_who
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To: dr_who

I heard a fellow opining it is precisely this law that has caused the recent surge in violence along the Mexican border.

Evidently, the production has merely moved to the Mexicans, and this boost in profits and cash on hand has caused them to both fight more over the traffic, and embolden them to taking a more active role in leadership of the region, so to speak.

This sounds credible to me, and in any case, meth use hasn’t gone down, and normal americans have their rights restricted.

It is ridiculous if you ask me.


26 posted on 11/16/2010 9:49:06 PM PST by TeachableMoment
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

No they dont have to cook it... but it is such an expensive habit that the hard core meth heads still will make it themselves if they can get their hands on the materials. That way they make enough for their own use and sell a little to buy more materials, and then they dont have to risk getting thrown in jail over stealing stupid little shit to support the habit. I know along with all the other normal drugs, now they are finding boxes of pills coming across the border now too, to fill the void made by having to having to fill out paperwork to buy it here in the states.... Yes I have addicted extended family members too, I really dont see how meth scored as far down the list on the recent drug classification that ranked drugs both by harm to user and others around them too. From what I have seen, I believe it should be ranked well above cocaine!


27 posted on 11/16/2010 9:49:41 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: SeeSharp

Ah yes, the reality doesn’t quite match the ideal in Singapore. But I still like the concept.


28 posted on 11/16/2010 9:49:43 PM PST by Leaning Right
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To: OrangeHoof

And ps... the addicts ARE registering at the pharmacy counter. The current procedure is to buy pseudoephedrine at the pharmacy, then exchange it with your next purchase of meth. Keeps the meth lab wheels turning, so to speak. And outsmarts the Fed.

Yes, the meth head HAVE figured out how to work around the law, and allergy sufferers are treated to more Big Brother.


29 posted on 11/16/2010 9:50:48 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Leaning Right

The weak get slammed by the justice system for holding what they need to stave off the pain of withdrawl,”

There are LEGAL drugs that stave off the pain of withdrawal. We do not need to “abandon the fight”, but there also needs to be a balance of treatment and enforcement.


30 posted on 11/16/2010 9:53:54 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: cornfedcowboy

It’s a FEDERAL law. And it hasn’t stopped the production of meth. These pseudoephedrine products need to go back to prescription status.


31 posted on 11/16/2010 9:55:03 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: ottbmare

“Anyway, if this is too much trouble, there is another form of Sudafed that doesn’t contain pseudoephedrine and doesn’t require you to get checked or sign anything. Seems to work just as well.”

Over the counter “Sudafed” (the brand name) actually was reformulated and does not contain any pseudoephedrine, the ingredient that makes the determination as to whether it is behind the counter or not. The OTC product now contains phenylephrine. If it works for you, great!


32 posted on 11/16/2010 9:59:37 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Actually, clean up of meth labs is already considered a major bio-hazard.


33 posted on 11/16/2010 10:02:02 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Leaning Right

Continuing the war on some drugs will mean the end of the Constitution and the Republic. How about we just execute the drug WARRIORS, instead? And, of course, their enablers and the lawmakers and executives who send them out. THAT would be justice!


34 posted on 11/16/2010 10:02:25 PM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: unkus

Just out of curiosity, how much of the animal comes from impurities because of the home cooking, compared to the pure drug itself? (I honestly don’t know.) But in the case of alcohol, a lot of blame was placed on it, that was properly aimed at denaturants and whatnot, during Prohibition.


35 posted on 11/16/2010 10:03:07 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: TeachableMoment

Meth use hasn’t gone down because the law was cr#p. Pseudoephedrines need to return to prescription status.


36 posted on 11/16/2010 10:04:53 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: SeeSharp

And brings the rest of us into the same hell.


37 posted on 11/16/2010 10:07:23 PM PST by correctthought ("Obamunism is a temporary setback on the road to freedom" - Liberty Prime)
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To: coloradan

Just out of curiosity, how much of the animal comes from impurities because of the home cooking, compared to the pure drug itself? (I honestly don’t know.)


I have no idea. I don’t even know how they make the evil stuff or if it’s smoked or shot up. I’ve only heard of it’s destruction.


38 posted on 11/16/2010 10:07:35 PM PST by unkus
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Actually, I haven’t heard all of the stories. But I read everywhere about how meth is the latest “rural epidemic”.


39 posted on 11/16/2010 10:09:03 PM PST by dr_who
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To: AzNASCARfan

From what they tell me, meth heads develop cheese heads with voids burned into their brain leaving the individual functionally useless with time. I don’t know if cocaine does that.


40 posted on 11/16/2010 10:10:20 PM PST by himno hero
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