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How to Kill the Meth Monster
nytimes.com ^ | ROB BOVETT | ROB BOVETT

Posted on 11/16/2010 9:00:05 PM PST by dr_who

THE latest bad news from the world of methamphetamine is that makers of the drug have perfected a one-pot recipe that enables them to manufacture their highly addictive product while on the move, often in their car. The materials they need — a two-liter soda bottle, a few cold pills and some household chemicals — are easily obtained and easily discarded, often in a trash bag dumped along the highway.

There is, however, a simple way to end this mobile industry — and, indeed, most methamphetamine production. We’ve tried it in Oregon, and have seen how well it works. Just keep a key ingredient, pseudoephedrine, out of the hands of meth producers.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: drugs; meth; methdrugwar
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Just about the best thing I've read on the pro-prohibition drug war front. The author probably doesn't have any statistical insights on whether ex-meth users will move on to other illegal drugs, but that's nit-picking. What I don't endorse is a national law. If individual states can require a prescription for said drug, then don't involve the federal government at all. If pot consumption could be eliminated this easily, it would be worth doing. Regardless, I think the only outcome for a continued war on drugs by the federal government is national bankruptcy.
1 posted on 11/16/2010 9:00:07 PM PST by dr_who
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Crystal is a self solving problem.
2 posted on 11/16/2010 9:09:00 PM PST by mmercier (the damage done)
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Abandoning the war on drugs would condemn the weak to a hell on earth.

Instead, what about the Singapore solution: madatory execution for traffickers?

From a blog where the author was recalling filling out some paperwork while in Singapore:

“When I was filling out my customs form for Singapore, I was chilled to see the all-capital letters, “DEATH FOR DRUGS IN SINGAPORE.”


3 posted on 11/16/2010 9:10:01 PM PST by Leaning Right
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Abandoning the war on drugs would condemn the weak to a hell on earth.

Continuing the war on drugs does exactly the same thing.

4 posted on 11/16/2010 9:13:57 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: dr_who

I have a family member in the grips of this. You’ve heard all the stories. As far as I’m concerned, they’re all true.


5 posted on 11/16/2010 9:16:36 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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You must not live in a state where Sudafed is already something that requires you to register with the pharmacist every time you make a purchase. This is already in place throughout the midwest, including Texas, save for a few states.

Sudafed is still the most effective sinus/allergy medicine out there and it feels like you are being singled out for harassment when you have to go to a pharmacy counter and sign forms in order to buy it.

We do still have meth labs around here too, although I can’t tell you if it is higher or lower (the ADDICTS aren’t the ones registering at the pharmacy counters so there’s no apparent tracking).

So, in order to stop people who can’t use a drug responsibly, we punish the people who only want to take a pill so they can stop sneezing and choking on their own snot. How compassionate!

And how idiotic. More government unintended consequences. The meth heads probably already have figured out a work-around while we allergy sufferers are treated to more Big Brother.


6 posted on 11/16/2010 9:20:34 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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Yes, you have a point, as things stand today. The weak get slammed by the justice system for holding what they need to stave off the pain of withdrawl, while at the same time they spiral down further with each hit.

It seems to me that the only two long-term choices we have here is to either abandon the fight - and so no more petty police harrassment - or adopt the Singapore solution - no more drugs available, as the dealers are all dead.


7 posted on 11/16/2010 9:21:00 PM PST by Leaning Right
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I have heard horror stories about Meth. People become animals.


8 posted on 11/16/2010 9:21:04 PM PST by unkus
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With incredible collateral damage.


9 posted on 11/16/2010 9:23:32 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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OK - I’m holding my breath for the environmentalists to get agitated about this toxic refuse....


10 posted on 11/16/2010 9:24:58 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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They don’t have to cook it up here anymore...the Mexicans are making it in factories on the other side of the border and shipping it in.


11 posted on 11/16/2010 9:26:51 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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Meth was once made by a different process that required no pseudo.

It became known as Biker Meth because the Hells Angels used the method.

I don't think drug laws work but this stuff is so dangerous that I'm glad it is illegal and thus harder to obtain. I just wish there was a way to help the addicted.


12 posted on 11/16/2010 9:27:47 PM PST by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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Iowa passed a law that required stores to put sudafed behind the counter. I believe it also required you to sign for it. All reports claim this greatly curtailed the home grown meth labs. Now if we could just slow down the stuff coming over our southern border.


13 posted on 11/16/2010 9:28:30 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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“Crystal is a self solving problem”


Maybe, but a lot of innocent people get hurt by it while the user is going about “solving” himself.


14 posted on 11/16/2010 9:30:14 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: OrangeHoof

We have that law here in Maryland, too. I don’t consider it all that onerous to check in with the clerk when I buy Sudafed. They have my information on file. Anyway, if this is too much trouble, there is another form of Sudafed that doesn’t contain pseudoephedrine and doesn’t require you to get checked or sign anything. Seems to work just as well.


15 posted on 11/16/2010 9:31:15 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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Yep, the Reason magazine retort to the NYT article ("Speed 5: This Time for Sure!") argues along those lines:

First the government encouraged illicit production of methamphetamine by restricting access to legal speed. Then it encouraged pseudoephedrine-based production by banning or restricting other precursors. Appalled by all the scary, toxic, flammable meth labs that subsequently popped up around the country, it restricted access to cold and allergy remedies containing pseudoephedrine, forcing customers to ask pharmacists for them, sign a registry, and abide by quantity limits. Those restrictions, in turn, encouraged a shift to the "shake and bake" method for producing meth, which is less complicated and does not require as much pseudoephedrine but is in some ways more dangerous and more environmentally destructive. The next logical step, according to Lincoln County, Oregon, District Attorney Rob Bovett, is to require a prescription for products containing pseudoephedrine, thereby banning all over-the-counter sales. This time for sure!
16 posted on 11/16/2010 9:34:33 PM PST by dr_who
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Meth is easy to smuggle in from Mexico.


17 posted on 11/16/2010 9:34:33 PM PST by umgud
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

They have no regard for anything.


18 posted on 11/16/2010 9:35:12 PM PST by unkus
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To: SeeSharp

LOL! I think you’re right.


19 posted on 11/16/2010 9:35:23 PM PST by dr_who
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Libertarians want to legalize it, including the manufacture of it, and the advertising of it.


20 posted on 11/16/2010 9:38:10 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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