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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld; RC one
I can tell you between Russian technology and Chinese technology, the Chinese are light years ahead of the Russians.

I agree with most of what you say ESB. For instance, the gains Chinese technology has made. They have really grown by leaps and bounds.

However sometimes you really go off tangent and end up in fantasy land. For instance your claim above that Chinese technology is light years ahead of Russian. Simply not true ...or even close to it.

In the same way there is no comparison between Russian technology and US technology, there is also no comparison between Chinese technology and Russian technology.

Case in point ...there are actually so many it is actually caseS in point. Take the Shenyang Liming WS-10, which is an engine the Chinese turbofan engine for jet fighters. Now it is slowly starting to work as advertised, but it is still nowhere near the Russian AL-31 ...even though the Chinese have had access to the Russian engines for a VERY LONG TIME. They cannot even manufacture an engine that is analogous to the Russian engine, while the Russians are already doing work on super-cruise capable engines. Yet the Chinese are light years ahead?

Take RADAR. Same thing. Chinese RADAR is becoming better, but it is not even up to the standards of the best Russian RADARs from the eighties such as the Zaslon-M PESA. The Chinese, with modern materials and a couple decade learning curve, still are not able to make something as good as mid-80s Russian PESAs. Yet they are light years ahead?

Take missiles. The Chinese HQ-9, which is a weaker copy of the Russian S-300 family. Even though the Chinese have access to the S-300, and per rumors information on US Patriot guidance, the HQ-9 is still not as good as early model S-300 systems. The Russians have continued to develop the S-300 family, have already started bringing the S-400 Triumf into play, and are working on the next generation S-500. Yet the Chinese are light years ahead?

Or take airplanes. The Chinese J-15 is an unlicensed copy of the Russian SU-33 meant for naval carrier operations. The Chinese thought they were smart trying to copy that using material/plans/plane acquired from the Ukraine, but they solidly failed in that too. By some reports they couldn't even get the wing folding right!

One could go on and on. In essence, and with all due respect, saying Chinese technology is 'light years ahead of the Russians' is high-grade hyperbole at best, or worse.

9 posted on 11/18/2010 4:06:22 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Russians-Admit-Their-Stuff-Sucks-10-21-2010.asp


12 posted on 11/18/2010 1:51:23 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: spetznaz

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Russians-Admit-Their-Stuff-Sucks-10-21-2010.asp


13 posted on 11/18/2010 1:51:35 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: spetznaz

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Russians-Admit-Their-Stuff-Sucks-10-21-2010.asp


14 posted on 11/18/2010 1:51:35 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: spetznaz

Well if we keep sending our factories, our technology, our national wealth and our intellectual property to China as we are now.

Won’t be long, before WE are the ones trying to copy their stuff.

While they become the biggest arms factory in world history.


27 posted on 11/18/2010 9:01:28 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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