Posted on 11/18/2010 2:29:31 AM PST by Scanian
Is there any better proof that Team Obama's preferred approach to fight ing terror -- through civilian courts -- is dangerously misguided than yesterday's acquittal of one of the 1998 US embassy bombers on all but one of 285 charges?
Ahmed Ghailani, the first Guantanamo Bay detainee to be tried in a civilian court, was convicted of only a single count of conspiracy to destroy government property and buildings using explosives.
Murder? No.
Terrorism? No.
He was up to his ears in a plot that took 224 lives, and he's not a terrorist?
Preposterous.
He might as well have blown up an empty phone booth in some desert.
That obscene verdict -- and the tortured, civilian-court process the led to it -- should put an end, once and for all, to any thought of trying other terrorists in similar fashion.
Particularly, 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed.
Unless, that is, Team Obama is willing to roll the dice on seeing him and his ilk walk free.
As we've long said, enemy combatants simply don't belong in federal courtrooms in a time of war.
After all, on the merits, the evidence against Ghailani was overwhelming:
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
He had previously pled guilty to all these charges.
Enquiring minds want to know if is attorney was from Holder’s law firm.
The result: A bloody-handed terrorist will now largely escape accountability for his heinous acts.
It's not a bug, it's a feature!
I’d love to know the makeup of THAT jury.
Anybody know?
However, it should also be pointed out that there has been very little media coverage of exactly what kind of evidence the jury was allowed to see, hear, etc.
Once again, Eric Holder’s fingerprints are all over this outrage.
We’ve come to a point in this country where tribal self-identification trumps everything. Including the national pride that used to bind all Americans to each other.
Viva la raza, eh?
My take....
The power of the moonbats over the Messiah is immense. He must do what they say or suffer severely. They demand using the ordinary defendant biased legal system rather than the military courts.
The trial in question was a sacrifice. That is they chose a defendant to try and lose in order to develop enough strong opposition to force the military trials.
Having won narrowly but lost greatly, they have roused the nation to overcome the moonbat power.
Sí, arriba México.
O dondequiera.
Identity politics started with the Dems and hopefully dies with them in 2012. We need to keep the pressure on to accomplish that.
That food bill that slipped past out notice in the Senate yesterday was a case in point. It is a freedom killer and yet practically nobody noticed and none of our favorite pundits( at least that I’m aware of) even mentioned it other that John Stossel.
Do you think we can be attentive and keep the pressure on our congresscritters for the next 2 years? I don’t think we have any choice.
This was the case where the judge, Lewis Kaplan, prohibited the jury from hearing witness testimony because the government had learned of the witness while Ghailani was being held at a camp where the CIA allegedly “tortured” (i.e., interrogated) prisoners.
The judge is a nauseating liberal jerk. Read his self-congratulatory remarks after the verdict.
I wonder what his instructions to the jury were like.
I don’t think this has anything to do with “identity politics.”
What we are seeing here is the liberal, anti-American judiciary in full flower. This case was seriously mishandled by the judge, who was obviously out to “get” the CIA and other anti-terrorist forces and make his point about the evil US and its evil ways.
I remember that when he prohibited the witness testimony, many analysts said that Ghailani was going to walk - and they were right.
IIRC, Ghailani had even pleaded guilty earlier but was allowed to withdraw his plea when the civilian trial came up. Disgusting and disgraceful. Holder and his boss are probably thrilled, of course.
I believe I was responding to the poster’s assertion that “tribal self-identification” trumps everything in America today.
I told him I agree with him and it needs to go.
I think that being hung up on colorand/or ethnicity helps to make both Obama and Holder anti-American. 0 was trained to think that way by Frank Davis; I’m not up on Holder’s early formation but he has always shown favoritism to America-hating minorities.
Jeremiah Wright was careful to knit “GD America” together with “rich, white people” as the bane of human existence. Obama clearly agreed with him. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have stayed in his “church” for 20 years.
It’s all tied together...Balkanize everybody. Teach them to love their group and despise “racist America” and support America’s enemies because, as any muzzie can tell us, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
Why do you assume that criticism is warranted? We have to assume that the jury was diligent about do their duty under the law; other wise the entire system breaks down. If they did their job, then the blame falls squarely on the judge who refused to let prosecutors submit evidence of his guilt, on prosecutors who didn't do a good job making their case, and the administration for moving this case from a military tribunal, where the rules are much different, into a a civilian court, where it doesn't belong to begin with.
The problem was not the jury. If you were on that jury yourself, doing exactly what you are required to do as a citizen of the United States ... you would have voted the SAME way. They had no choice, they had to follow the law. You make a jury decision based on the facts presented. The "system" would not allow the facts to be presented ... so you would not have the facts you needed to convict.
The law says you can not coerce testimony .. you can't "beat the truth" out of a prisoner. The key witness was coerced ... that was a fact and given. Therefore the law made the testimony of that witness ineligible for introduction. Once that happened, there was no case. This is the fallacy of treating terrorists as though they had United States rights under the Constitution. That is twisted logic and this is the result.
The problem was not the jury, the problem was the "twisted libs" that "felt sorry" for the "poor terrorists" (that were trying to kill us) and wanted to "Give them a chance" to defend themselves. Libs and RINOs twisted our system ... and the dummies that voted for Obama are to blame for this.
A disgraceful defeat for Liberty, a stunning Victory for terrorism. Thank you "President" Obama. You are keeping your promise of "transforming America." You are right on track.
You know as well as I do that there are stacked juries, biased juries, and even jury nullification.
If all juries could be expected to follow the law, there would be no need for careful jury selection.
Any lawyer would want as many blacks and Muslims as possible on that jury.
Those two America Haters have to go, and asap.
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