Posted on 11/18/2010 4:03:42 PM PST by dynachrome
Beer and football are the bread and circus’s of today.
This is just the latest example of the problem with government being way to big and powerful. It just invites rich groups to spend money to corrupt and influence lawmakers to bend the law to their whims.
It is the free market at work. Do you respect the market?
For those who don't remember we have been through this before. The teams played with players who chose not to strike and with new signees.
If you don't like sports there are about a zillion other channels to watch.
It’s not a free market when the tax payer has to flip the bill for Jerry Jones’ stadium.
Note how the unions are pre-writing the letters for their pet congressthings.
hey at least Jerry put up a FEW of his own bucks for that place
in Indy, not only did the taxpayers pay for 100% of Lucas Snake Oil Stadium but the Irsay’s get ALL the revenue from non football events too
un frickin real
What is the only NFL stadium in America not funded by the taxpayer?
Lots of comments on this thread taking sides on this issue. I guess I have a more basic question. Why should any of this be the concern of government in the first place?
The number of games would not change. As I understand it there would be 2 exhibitions games and 18 regular season games and then the playoffs and the super bowl.
Originally, there were 6 exhibition games and fourteen regular season games and then a league championship. No Super Bowl. Then it was 4 and 16 and playoffs and SB. Now it will be 2 and 18. The American Football League came along in somewhere in there.
Exhibition games are boring because they are just training sessions in dress rehearsal.
Exactly.
But we know who supports the maximum leader. The unions.
Of course because multi-millionaire players need help negotiating with billionaire owners. Yeah, Congress has no other priority.
Green Bay?
As a long time NFL season ticket holder (33 years) let me say this ... get over yourselves you over paid prima donna a**holes.
“Why should any of this be the concern of government in the first place?”
I agree with that 1000%. Gov’t should stay out of football. But that ALSO means not giving one red cent to sports stadiums. Not one subsidy. Not one tax break. Not one acre of free land.... well, you get the point.
Sports is a net loser for every single community that has wasted millions on it. Not one community in the nation has come out ahead with sports. Millions upon millions utterly wasted.
So, to the fellow above that claimed that we are obviating capitalism by hatin’ on sports and that wonderful “special talent” of these sport slobs on TV, to the guy that scolded us that we don’t want “the market to work,” I am telling you right now that the market IS NOT at work in “professional” sports (or college, either).
Sports is treated as a socialist enterprise by being subsidized by the taxpayers all across the country and to no benefit to we the people.
Give ALL playoff teams a bye. Get rid of the extra week before the Super Bowl and have a uniform bye week for all teams mid-season after the 9th game. This is the perfect solution, IMO.
Do you know the details of the stadium deal? What about The Ball Park in Arlington, the Rangers field? What about Six Flags? They are all right there together. Does the City of Arlington benefit from those? Did the owners of those organizations impose themselves on the city or did the city woe them?
I don't know the details either, I can research it, but usually on these deals the city's big involvement is through property tax breaks for a number of years. Is the tax payer paying for that? Yes, but on the other hand the city is getting more back in sales taxes than they are losing in property taxes.
Wasn’t Joe Robbie Stadium built entirely with private money?
I know because of the death tax the stadium and the team had to be sold.
I don't know but here is the answer for Cowboys Stadium in Arlington.
Originally estimated to cost $650 million, the stadium's current construction cost was $1.15 billion,[13] making it one of the most expensive sports venues ever built. To aid Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones in paying the construction costs of the new stadium, Arlington voters approved the increase of the city's sales tax by 0.5 percent, the hotel occupancy tax by 2 percent, and car rental tax by 5 percent. The City of Arlington provided over $325 million (including interest) in bonds as funding,[13][14] and Jones covered any cost overruns. Also, the NFL provided the Cowboys with an additional $150 million, as per their policy for giving teams a certain lump sum of money for stadium financing.[15]
So, the answer is that JJ payed the most but the taxpayers of Arlington approved taxing themselves to help and the league helped.
Oh, I see, that tax payers of Arlington only provided Jerry Jones with more than 325 million dollars for his stadium.
A money transfer of a around a third of a billion dollars from the tax payer to a billionaire and his private company sure does seem like Socialism to me.
Do the tax payers of Arlington get to go to Cowboy games for free?
After all, they paid for a big chunk of that stadium.
I would think that Jerry would at least give the citizens of Arlington a big discount on tickets.
Do the tax payers have to pay the $40.00 it cost to park at the stadium?
How about the pizza they sell at Cowboy Stadium?
Do the tax payers get a discount or do they have to pay $60.00 per pizza like everyone else?
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