Posted on 11/18/2010 9:18:57 PM PST by Libloather
Dem strategists: Obama bungled 2010
By DAVID CATANESE
Updated: 11/18/10 3:01 PM EST
Two former advisers to President Bill Clinton accused the Obama administration of minimizing the economic crisis and botching a narrative that could have limited Democratic losses this midterm election cycle.
“The White House had the best and the brightest, but they, what would Bush say, misunderestimated, whatever the word is,” said Democratic consultant James Carville Thursday at a breakfast with reporters held by the Christian Science Monitor.
Pollster Stan Greenberg said Obama downplayed “an almost Depression-like economic crisis,” by inaccurately projecting the magnitude of job losses. “They predicated everything on the jobs coming back from March. They’re still in the middle of this crisis. This is a total misframing of this moment. Some of it’s policy ... a lot of it is giving the people in this crisis a sense of what the scale of it is, and what has to be done to get out of it,” he said.
Carville, who helped mastermind Clinton’s 1992 run for the presidency, said the failure of the White House to tailor a more populist economic message likely cost Democrats at least two dozen House seats.
“We would have lost seats regardless. The difference between losing 35 seats and 65 seats is all the difference in the world. I don’t buy that the electorate was uninformed, I do buy that we didn’t inform them sufficiently on our side, and we paid a price for that,” he said. Democrats lost six Senate seats and 60 House seats, with six close races still to be decided.
The flashpoints for Carville were independents’ rage over the bank bailout and lawmakers’ failure to move on legislation that would have capped compensation of Wall Street executives.
“We should’ve been madder about having to do it. It looked like we were too glad to just write the checks. We were too satisfied with this sort of behavior,” Carville said of the bank bailout, which was passed under President George W. Bush but supported by Obama. “If there’s any fat pitch that we’re ever going to get, it is a recession caused by an unregulated, speculative, leveraged bubble. We didn’t look like we were very mad about the whole thing.”
But both Carville and Greenberg, who jointly founded Democracy Corps, painted a rosier picture of Obama’s electoral future in 2012, mainly because of the country’s rapidly changing demographics.
Declining to pinpoint a Republican favorite, Carville said any GOP presidential candidate would be forced to “double-down on older whites” — a strategy that becomes less reliable each cycle.
“When you get into a presidential electorate, it decidedly favors Democrats, and every year it’s going to decidedly favor them more and more,” Carville said. “Demographics don’t do anything but get better for Democrats. Every election becomes less white.”
Although Republicans elected two black congressman and the first Latina governor this year, Greenberg said he remained unimpressed by the GOP’s messaging toward minorities.
According to post-election polling conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, Greenberg’s polling firm, black turnout was down 3 percent from 2008, but Latino turnout remained stable.
Nonetheless, to win in 2012, Carville said, Obama had to drive only “somewhat better” numbers to the polls.
“The deck that he’s going to play with in 2012 is going to be a fundamentally more favorable deck than he played with in 2010,” he said.
He just wrote a book called "40 More Years" about how the Democrats were in for four decades of control in Washington.
He was only off by 38 years. Why would anybody listen to his dopey drooling mouth?
these yahoos are predicating everything on what is happening right now..... I see major upsets coming up...obamanation is not going to be able stand the heat..... and the food shortage (people unable to afford food) is going to cause a lot of people to blame obamanation.... that plus increased terror....
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Another POS heard from... We know Zero's speech about us clingers. Take a dirt nap snake head.
The foreign occupier and his horde are a menace to our nation and damn near everyone living here.
You rats are shovel-ready for the dust bin of history.
“Although Republicans elected two black congressman and the first Latina governor this year, Greenberg said he remained unimpressed by the GOP’s messaging toward minorities.”
It takes TIME to de-program the blacks that have been held hostage by the dems on the plantation for decades.
Hell.....the dems won’t even admit Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN!
And, remember the OUTRAGE about the billboards that correctly said Martin Luther King was originally a republican??
The dems have to keep re-writing history to keep the blacks in the dark——for votes.
Case in point:
Could it, can it possibly be...
“Pollster Stan Greenberg said Obama downplayed “an almost Depression-like economic crisis,” by inaccurately projecting the magnitude of job losses. “They predicated everything on the jobs coming back from March. They’re still in the middle of this crisis. This is a total misframing of this moment. Some of it’s policy ... a lot of it is giving the people in this crisis a sense of what the scale of it is, and what has to be done to get out of it,” he said.”
IOW, they failed to do what Rahmbo said - ‘take advantage of the crisis’.
“...by inaccurately projecting the magnitude of job losses..”
IOW, doing what liberals do - lie. ‘Jobs Saved’ means those we failed to eliminate.
Yeah, freedom, liberty, individual responsibility, self-reliance -- these don't resonate with minorities. It is virulently racist of them to believe that all minorities want is life-long dependence on government give-aways provided by the Democrat massas on the plantation.
It can't be both A and not A at the same time, now can it. What he really means here is the Administration didn't lie convincingly enough.
Liars, thieves, cowards and traitors. The whole lot of 'em.
“Demographics don’t do anything but get better for Democrats. Every election becomes less white.”
Do these people listen to themselves?
Rubio really scares them. The dems don’t have anyone like that for Hispanics.
Laying the groundwork for Hillary
yeah like that’s really going to win over minorities
Yes they listen to themselves and they know they are racist and they know that racism is power. They have been using race hate and preferences for power since the beginning.
You can bind people together as a Nation or under your leadership with an inspiring idenity that goes deeper than race and does not look back at history’s imperfections rather cuts new ground for a good future. This is what Reagan did.
You can bind a Nation together with a common enemy in war. This is what happened to George Bush after 911.
When the Dems saw the writing on the wall in the early 60’s with the end of the white segregation and preferences that kept them in power for decades, they moved to reorder race preferences and came up with new doctrines of division and hate. We call it “diversity.”
Republicans - Rinos - have no heart, courage nor imagination. They think they can compete for the diveristy racist vote with the kings of racism - the Democrats. They don’t have the vision and honor to call the racist Democrats out on their hate of white Americans and call on Americans to be one strong and free tribe competing together in the world of freedom for success, our shared goodness and happiness with one another. No...our stupid party has to try and beat the dems in the hate whitey game which is right where the post segregation racists want them.
Healthcare.
I thought the Obama administration was telling us that it was one of the greatest crises that a President ever had to cope with, akin to the Civil War or the Great Depression.
Carville, who helped mastermind Clinton’s 1992 run for the presidency, said the failure of the White House to tailor a more populist economic message likely cost Democrats at least two dozen House seats..."We didn’t look like we were very mad about the whole thing.”
I thought Obama was demonizing bankers, oil companies, doctors, insurance companies, hedge fund managers, and various other "special interests," in language so colorful at times that it was deemed un-Presidential.
The flashpoints for Carville were independents’ rage over the bank bailout and lawmakers’ failure to move on legislation that would have capped compensation of Wall Street executives.
They appointed a special "czar" to regulate and pass on the salaries of top-level executives of companies who had accepted and were using bail-out money.
...we didn’t inform [the electorate] sufficiently...
Obama was on TV every other day, so that people were getting sick of looking at him and Democrat supporters were worrying that he was over-exposed. His "informing" the electorate didn't make his programs any more popular. In many places where he campaigned, his candidate lost, like in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.
Does Carville really believe all this BS that he is spouting? What sort of fools pay him for this sort of "advice"?
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