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Good morning. Ryan and Jesse are talking about thanksgiving plans.

Jesse has guest, Lisa Gibson, author of "Life and Death: A Journey from Terrorism to Triumph". Jesse asks what is she thankful for. She is thankful for life.

She is talking about Kadafi, who is responsible for her brothers death in the Lockerbie airplane crash. She met with him because she wanted to learn to forgive him. She interviewed him. And is discussing him. She gave him a gift of a pen, and he was visibly touched.

She is very interesting. She was also a mediator. And believes any conflict can be resolved. She is all about forgiveness. The biggest block to forgiveness, is the need for justice. You have to be able to repent.

Jesse asks who she had to forgive and how did she do it. She had to forgive Kadafi and the other guy.

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Jesse asks does a crime need to be punished? She says leaves it up to God. She doesn't have to punish. She says that you don't have to punish. Jesse says that most people wont repent. She believes them when they say they are sorry. What is forgiveness Jesse asks. SHe says giving them the opportunity to repent.

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