Speaking of which, where is the stage separation? Chinese SLBMs are two stage, ours are three stage. No photo or video shows it, and no eyewitness reported it.
I assume your constant rants about the $900 Nikon still photos are about the smoke effluvia shown blowing in the offshore winds?
You didn't read post 227 like I asked, did you?
And BTW, I know this will sound snarky, but it's the only way I can think to say it: Does it make you feel smart when you assume a grown man is so stupid that he would mistake filming rocket smoke at ground level as being the same as filming an object in outer space? Because that's the assumption you made when you figured I was talking about smoke. And the fact that you don't know about Rick Warren and his $900 Nikon means you've been spouting off grandly about this subject for days now while ignoring crucial evidence.
Lastly, not to nitpick, but asking a question is not ranting.
No one knows the timing: obviously. A minute or so would be my guess
Warren took his first photo at 5:19 and his last photo just before 5:24. By the time he took that first photo, the vehicle had been leaving a trail for quite some time...15 to 30m seconds at least. So let's err on the side of caution and say that if the vehicle is a missile there are five minutes between launch and Warren's last photo.
In Warren's last photo, the vehicle is clearly seen and is roughly the same size as it was in shots taken minutes before. If it's an MD-11, that's no big deal. If it's an SLBM, it's physically impossible. An SLBM would be in space by then and hundreds of miles downrange traveling at hypersonic speeds.
And by the way, if you live near Lake Michigan, you don’t know what you are talking about,
You have poor reading comprehension. I was talking about seeing a contrail from an airliner that had the same formations you say "scream" missile. I saw this twice today, and both of these trails appeared to be nearly vertical in the sky. In other words, I had "proof" right in front of me that they were SLBMs, but they were airliners.
Did you read the FR comments from the guy who worked at Cape Canaveral for 30 years? He said “missile”.
Is he aware of UPS 902 and Warren? Until I saw that evidence, I was certain it was a missile as well.
The media is screwing with you. Did you know that the CBS station released "raw video" that was heavily eited? Link in post 227.
Did you read the FR comments from the guy who worked at Cape Canaveral for 30 years?
He said “missile”.
Then he wasn't taking pics of UPS902.
UPS902 was over Catalina Island at 17:31:33. Its altitude was ~ 30,000 feet. It was 35 miles south of Long Beach at 17:33:01. Altitude ~ 29,000 feet. It was then 20 miles south of Costa Mesa at 17:34:29 at ~ 29,000 feet. At that altitude should have been contrailing the whole way. Never got close to Long Beach. Traveled south of FallBrook and started major descent then. Turned north and was at 11,100 feet over Hemet heading north. No way it could have been that plane. Check it for yourself. Go to the website below. Set the date for November 8th 2010 time 17:30 . Set the replay speed for normal. Hit Start Replay. Make sure you are not paused. Planes will show up in a few seconds. UPS902 will appear on and off south of Malibu at 17:30:11. It flew way south of Long Beach at about 30,000 feet. No where near the setting sun with respect to looking south from Long Beach.
Airport Monitor Bob Hope Airport
And where is that contrail of awe808 which flew almost the same path exactly one half hour earlier?