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Beating the TSA: How a determined passenger spent hours arguing his rights before being waved thru
The Daily MailOnline ^ | 23rd November 2010 | James White

Posted on 11/23/2010 12:22:45 PM PST by Tucson_AZ

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To: GailA
What about the STD’s that could be transmitted through body fluids...after they’ve had their hands on your private parts.

After decades of telling people that they cannot 'catch' STDs from toilet seats, door knobs, etc, we still have adults who think that STDs can be transmitted by pat downs?

C'mon, the grope sessions are bad enough without making us sound stupidly ignorant while objecting.

41 posted on 11/23/2010 4:36:55 PM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

I did not say plain pat downs. If you listened to Rush today, some of the TSA agents are not just doing pat downs on the outside of the underclothing.


42 posted on 11/23/2010 6:00:25 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: GailA

So what STDs get transmitted that way? Hmmm?


43 posted on 11/23/2010 6:08:07 PM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: MamaDearest

Haven’t checked in for a few days and then I read your post. That is a shocking shade of 1935 Germany.


44 posted on 11/23/2010 6:17:20 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Springfield Reformer
I can think of a reason to get the names of TSA protestors...A TSA protester is head and shoulders above that. They are willing to take on the risk of a direct confrontation with tyrannical authority, with a strong possibility of immediate adverse results. In short, they have the intellect and hero spirit to become leaders of the resistance. They are special, and knowing who they are is an advantage to the tyrants and would justify extra effort in identifying them. The only way I can think of to beat that devilish ploy is to overwhelm it with the Spartacus defense. If we don’t act all as one, it will be way too easy for them to peel us off individually.

Bingo.

45 posted on 11/23/2010 6:58:13 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Tucson_AZ

Kobayashi Maru


46 posted on 11/23/2010 7:13:28 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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To: Oztrich Boy

LOL! “I don’t believe in the no win scenario.”


47 posted on 11/23/2010 7:50:10 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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To: Eagle Eye
So what STDs get transmitted that way? Hmmm?

Herpes is a very common infection. It is caused by two different but closely related viruses. The viruses are herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2). Both are easy to catch. They remain in the body for life and can produce symptoms that come and go.

Both forms of herpes can infect the oral area, the genital area, or both. When the infection is on or near the mouth, it is called oral herpes. Oral herpes is caused most often by HSV-1. When a herpes infection is on or near the sex organs, it is called genital herpes. Genital herpes is caused most often by HSV-2. Up to 8 out of 10 American adults have oral herpes. And about 1 out of 4 American adults have genital herpes. Millions of people do not know they have herpes because they never had, or noticed, the herpes symptoms.

Herpes is spread by touching, kissing, and sexual contact, including vaginal, anal, and oral sex. It can be passed from one partner to another and from one part of the body to another. Brief skin-to-skin contact is all that's needed to pass the virus. Because herpes may have no symptoms for years, sometimes it is very difficult to know who passed it to whom.

More info: Planned Parenthood
I figure if anyone has a vested interest in emphasizing the dangers of "unprotected" sex it's these guys.

48 posted on 11/23/2010 8:30:56 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: B Knotts

The most the ACLU will do over this is say they got X number of complaints. Their will be no lawsuit and they will have find some reason to ignore all of the passengers reports over some technicality.


49 posted on 11/23/2010 10:03:24 PM PST by matt04
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To: B Knotts

The most the ACLU will do over this is say they got X number of complaints. Their will be no lawsuit and they will have find some reason to ignore all of the passengers reports over some technicality.


50 posted on 11/23/2010 10:03:35 PM PST by matt04
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To: Colonel_Flagg
It's simple: get elected.

...or join a union! All the TSA are belong to us (unions that is).

51 posted on 11/24/2010 6:57:20 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: B Knotts
"The ACLU sues over just about anything. Why aren't they suing over this? Oh...that's right...this affects law-abiding citizens, and the ACLU doesn't defend their rights."

They need to put the TSA on the southern BORDER!

52 posted on 11/24/2010 8:07:58 AM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s freedom. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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To: mvpel

“I’ve never been in an airport where passengers on their way out were subject to search. This story seems a bit odd in that respect.”

It is odd if he was just trying to get to baggage claim.
When you are on an international flight and go from one terminal to another as a connecting passenger, eg at Chicago OHare or Newark, you have to go through security again. In other countries, they separate connecting passengers and arrivals.

The TSA is way out of control.


53 posted on 11/24/2010 9:04:53 AM PST by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: OneWingedShark

As you stated, “Skin to skin contact” is all that is needed.

That would mean Passenger A infecting TSA agent by skin to skin contact, then TSA agent passing it on to Passenger B by skin to skin contact.

Do you have any evidence that his happens?

I suspect that this form of transmission would be even rarer than female to male HIV transmission.


54 posted on 11/24/2010 9:19:01 AM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Well, considering that the process of drying actually kills a *lot* of bacteria/viruses it’s highly likely it would have to happen before the sweat evaporates.

That said, I have no wish to “try my luck” on that.

PS - You only asked if there was an STD which could be spread by skin-to-skin contact; I have provided one case for you — the answer is YES.


55 posted on 11/24/2010 9:25:10 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
You only asked if there was an STD which could be spread by skin-to-skin contact;

He didn't specify skin-to-skin. He was referring to the pat down which should never be skin-to-skin. Most likely that would be skin-to-cloth-to-latex-to-cloth-to-skin.

56 posted on 11/24/2010 9:29:36 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: OneWingedShark

No, that isn’t what I asked. Go back and read the thread yourself.

The TSA gropefest is bad enough on its own without inventing implausible, silly ass scenarios that do nothing but distract from the real issue of Freedom.

If we make the issue hygiene and sanitation, then what do we do when they make adjustments that answer those concerns?

More kids will get lice from school mates than air passengers will get from each other during pat downs.

The issue must stay focused on Freedom.


57 posted on 11/24/2010 9:46:45 AM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Tucson_AZ

For information on Crimes committed by the BHO regime:

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville


58 posted on 11/24/2010 10:20:52 AM PST by FS11
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To: Eagle Eye

>The issue must stay focused on Freedom.

Agreed. I do get distracted sometimes...


59 posted on 11/24/2010 10:25:27 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Until Americans rise up against this tyranny we will have more and more false arrests and false imprisonments like this:

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/splc-enemy-list-leo-haffey-first-they-came-for-me-southern-poverty-law-center-enemy-list-nashville-attorney-haffey/


60 posted on 11/24/2010 10:32:39 AM PST by FS11
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