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To: oh8eleven

THERE ARE AN ARMY OF LIKE-MINDED JUDGES AND LAWYERS OUT THRE, STANDING IN LINE FOR WORK LIKE THIS.

AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE POS LEGAL-DEGREED INDIVIDUAL WHO WILL GO TO COURT AGAINST A BLATANT VIOLATION OF THE US CONSTITUTION!

Pardon me for yelling, but I am WAAAAY passed PO’ed.


16 posted on 11/24/2010 9:44:57 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey
Pardon me for yelling, but I am WAAAAY passed PO’ed.

No pardon needed from me; since when did it become wrong to hate injustice?
Only a fool says that all hate is wrong.

THERE ARE AN ARMY OF LIKE-MINDED JUDGES AND LAWYERS OUT THRE, STANDING IN LINE FOR WORK LIKE THIS.
AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE POS LEGAL-DEGREED INDIVIDUAL WHO WILL GO TO COURT AGAINST A BLATANT VIOLATION OF THE US CONSTITUTION!

I know what you mean; it extends even to the state level. I have an example I am quite fond of because it illustrates the point so well:

New Mexico State Constitution
Article II, Sec. 6. [Right to bear arms.]
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.
NMSA 30-7-2.4. Unlawful carrying of a firearm on university premises; notice; penalty.
A.     Unlawful carrying of a firearm on university premises consists of carrying a firearm on university premises except by:
  (1)     a peace officer;
  (2)     university security personnel;
  (3)     a student, instructor or other university-authorized personnel who are engaged in army, navy, marine corps or air force reserve officer training corps programs or a state-authorized hunter safety training program;
  (4)     a person conducting or participating in a university-approved program, class or other activity involving the carrying of a firearm; or
  (5)     a person older than nineteen years of age on university premises in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance, for lawful protection of the person's or another's person or property.

B.     A university shall conspicuously post notices on university premises that state that it is unlawful to carry a firearm on university premises.

C.     As used in this section:
  (1)     "university" means a baccalaureate degree-granting post-secondary educational institution, a community college, a branch community college, a technical-vocational institute and an area vocational school; and
  (2)     "university premises" means:
    (a)     the buildings and grounds of a university, including playing fields and parking areas of a university, in or on which university or university-related activities are conducted; or
    (b)     any other public buildings or grounds, including playing fields and parking areas that are not university property, in or on which university-related and sanctioned activities are performed.

D.     Whoever commits unlawful carrying of a firearm on university premises is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

Now either the Constitution means what it says when it says "No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense" or it does not; if it does not then why should I assume that it means what it says in Atr IV, Sec. 1. [Judicial power vested.] "The judicial power of the state shall be vested in the senate when sitting as a court of impeachment, a supreme court, a court of appeals, district courts; probate courts, magistrate courts and such other courts inferior to the district courts as may be established by law from time to time in any district, county or municipality of the state"?
That is to say, "what right would a court have to try me?"

Furthermore, the statute prohibits firearms in "the buildings and grounds of a university" which must obviously include student housing; if firearms are prohibited from student housing, then isn't any Citizen who resides therein being denied the right of firearms "for security and defense"?

And yet when I pose these questions to those in authority I get strange replies like:

  1. a sheriff: "we prohibit firearms in courthouses, so why can't we prohibit them on campus."
  2. state AG: "I cannot render an opinion on matters of law."
  3. my representative for the state legislature: "I will have to look into it and ask the state AG." (also no further replies)
  4. the state supreme court: "Talk to the state bar." {telephone recording}
  5. the state bar: "you'll have to ask a lawyer... and pay us to find you one."
  6. local [civil rights] lawyer: "Wow, sounds like you've done you're homework, I'll look into it." {no further replies}
  7. police: "It's a university matter." {No, it isn't, the state statute exists completely independent of the university and any/all of its regulations.}

Aaaaargh!! Where do I go for an answer to the question of whether or not this law is valid!?
It is obvious that it is not, which is the whole point.

21 posted on 11/24/2010 10:15:26 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NTHockey

“I feel your pain.”


32 posted on 11/24/2010 11:59:56 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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