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Chinese villagers 'descended from Roman soldiers'
Daily Telegraph ^ | 27th November 2010 | Nick Squires

Posted on 11/27/2010 2:33:35 AM PST by the scotsman

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To: Bon mots

There’s a bit of hypothesizing about the origins of the blue eyed blonds in Central Asia. One is that they were there all along ~ all the way to what is now Western China. Through time East Asian people have moved into the region.


21 posted on 11/27/2010 4:49:24 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: BCW
Just to be quite troublesome the Sa'ami share what is called the "X-factor DNA sequence" with the Fulbe, Cherokee, Iroquois, Berber, Ojibway and Yakuts/Sakha.

They share a lot of other genetic material with these same groups as well.

The Sa'ami are the original Northern European people and they traveled widely at towards the end of the Great Glaciation.

We don't know if the Sa'ami were yet blue-eyed blonds at the time they began their journies which may have been as early as 15,000 years ago ~ LONG BEFORE the creation of any of the Indo-European languages.

22 posted on 11/27/2010 4:55:14 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: the scotsman
The Roman empire fought many battles in the middle east and lost a few. What happened to those taken prisoner, undoubtedly many were sold into slavery and could have ended up in China and since they were well trained soldiers could have been used as such.
23 posted on 11/27/2010 5:16:52 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: BCW

Since the Kurds were the biggest problem faced by the Ten Thousand fighting their way out of the Middle East quite some time before Alex, this doesn’t seem to be their origin.


24 posted on 11/27/2010 5:18:50 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: muawiyah
There’s a bit of hypothesizing about the origins of the blue eyed blonds in Central Asia. One is that they were there all along ~ all the way to what is now Western China. Through time East Asian people have moved into the region.

Yes, the ancient Greeks were blue eyed blondes... as was Ataturk...

25 posted on 11/27/2010 5:35:52 AM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: muawiyah

Per the facial, hair, eyes - this is what iw as refering to.

612 BC: After the Babylonians destroyed the Assyrian capitals of Ashur and Nineveh, the Assyrian empire city of Arbela, today’s Erbil, becomes part of the Babylonian empire. [5]

539 BC: After Persian leader Cyrus the Great takes over Babylon, Arbela, today’s Erbil, joins the vast Achaemenid or ancient Persian empire. [6]

331 BC: Alexander the Great and Darius III of Persia fight the Battle of Gaugamela, also known as the Battle of Arbela, about 75 kilometres north-west of Erbil. In the aftermath, Darius is murdered by his kinsmen and Alexander goes on to conquer the Persian Empire including Babylon, and extends his empire to the Punjab. [7]


26 posted on 11/27/2010 5:43:24 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Bon mots

Yemenite Jews also had “blondism” traits.


27 posted on 11/27/2010 5:58:26 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: wideawake
"There is no documented historical evidence to support the notion that any Roman unit got "lost" and wandered as far as northern China."

Not "lost", but I seem to recall reading somewhere that one of the Roman emperors told one of his legions "march to the eastern sea", and they took off east. Never heard from again.

28 posted on 11/27/2010 5:59:57 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: BCW

Alexander and his core group regularly ACQUIRED soldiers from all sorts of ethnic groups and nations on their way East. When they finally were stopped along the Indus, and allowed to escape back to the West, the army just wasn’t what it had been back in Greece.


29 posted on 11/27/2010 6:01:36 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah

Definitely! - Same with Rome - and we are heading that direction by allowing our system to be infilitrated and torn apart from within.

My time in Iraq 2003- 2008 - I was able to go to alot of historical sites (becuase we had the guns) and was able to talk to alot of the locals (usually the older males - like grandpa’s) and they would talk about all sorts of things as they occurred...the youth though - didn’t care.


30 posted on 11/27/2010 6:16:39 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BCW
You get a statistical anomaly for 47 years that turns this country just as cold and dry as we know it's been off and on for the last 10,000 years, and all those tropical types will depart for the Sunny Souf' ~ and I don't mean Brownsville!

Although humanbeings aren't designed for "specific climates" there are limits, and it's only indoor life that tricks us into thinking they no longer apply.

31 posted on 11/27/2010 6:38:47 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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32 posted on 11/27/2010 6:39:22 AM PST by rawhide
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To: the scotsman

I do recall that the Danish “Noah” Plaque shows Noah`s wife as Chinese. That would explain it.


33 posted on 11/27/2010 6:46:33 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: the scotsman

I do recall that the Danish “Noah” Plaque shows Noah`s wife as Chinese. That would explain it.


34 posted on 11/27/2010 6:48:40 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: muawiyah
I have hear this about the Sa'ami (just to clarify, these are the Lapps in northern Finland, correct?) and their linguistic connection with East Asia and several tribes of Native Americans. Fascinating stuff, especially when one considers not only the post ice age migrations but what humanity may have looked like and what history was made in the preceding inter-glacial period when the climate was similar to what we've enjoyed for the past 10,000 or so years.
35 posted on 11/27/2010 7:03:04 AM PST by katana
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The Sa'ami linguistic connection had traditionally been thought to be "from the East", but that was back before DNA studies demonstrated that they were essentially THE ORIGINAL European population ~ now, the connection appears to be "to the East" where Sa'ami languages radiated from Fenno-Scandia to more primitive peoples to the East.

Currently, the Sapma, the area where the Sa'ami primarily live (exclusive of America where up to 90% of them currently reside) extends from Norway through Sweden, through Finland, and around the Kola Peninsula in Russia.

It is now known their range thousands of years ago was far more extensive.

36 posted on 11/27/2010 7:10:08 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: MacMattico

There are parts of Asia (in the region in the article) where you swear you are in Scandinavia based upon the looks of the residents.


37 posted on 11/27/2010 7:15:14 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Bon mots
Maybe not Alexander the Great descendants. Our troops have been over there, right? Maybe some CIA offspring too.
38 posted on 11/27/2010 7:19:47 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Bon mots
There are descendents of Alexander The Great's soldiers in Pakistan.

In his autobiography, an English officer in the Indian Army (the Army of India when it was a British colony), wrote that a series of hills near his home station, in what is now Pakistan, were topped with Mesopotamian date palms. He said the locals claimed to be descended from Alexander the Great's soldiers, and that the date palms grew from date pits spat out by Alexander's troops, who were on guard duty. In an age before DNA, he could not tell if the first claim was true, but as an army officer, he stated that the hills topped with date palms were the hills a general would picket, if he was making sure that he was not surprised by a large army advancing out of India proper.

39 posted on 11/27/2010 8:03:41 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: the scotsman

Would that make them Romanese or Chiroman?.


40 posted on 11/27/2010 8:03:51 AM PST by Vaduz
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