George W. Bush to answer questions live from Facebook headquarters [Today at 2 PM PST]

TekGoblin ^ | 2010-11-29

[ohioWfan]

It's groupthink, Wpin.

I think they actually believe they're 'cool' when they say these stupid things.

Like they get a reward from the Bush-hating-bad-boys standing on the corner with cigarettes rolled up in their T shirt sleeves. ;)

[swpa_mom]

Thank you for sitting through the constant interviews, listening to every word. You’re listening, but you’re bashing those who listen.

This is how the liberals operate - hating Fox News, for example, while watching Fox News around the clock.

Bring back George Bush. Clarity. He never called Americans the enemy.

[raybbr]

So, are you saying that Bush made you vote and campaign for Obama?

No, not me - but millions of others.

If Bush was so good why did so many switch to Obama?

Bush's "compassionate conservatism" was simply liberalism lite and people said, "If it was okay for the leader of the GOP it must be okay to be liberal." If you can't see that then you remain blind by choice.

[swpa_mom]

I'm going to take a shot at this one. As the mother of a new voter, I will tell you that on campuses all around this country, Obama was seen as “cool”. I mean, the guy had a blackberry, he obviously works out and he could read that teleprompter like no other. In addition, those same kids on college campuses really thought a republican president would bring back the draft, thanks to what they read on the net and heard from some of their cult heroes.

As far as the adults who voted for a far left President with absolutely no experience, you witnessed the power of the media. Akin to Jim Jones. He promised his flock the promised land, too. Yes we can. When you attack people as this media attacked the republican candidate, at some point, many of the weaker people lose sight of the goal of saving the country and just vote for the cool people. Mistakes were made. The election three weeks ago started to correct that disastrous mistake.

[ohioWfan]

If Bush was so good why did so many switch to Obama?

You're badly conflating issues ray, and ignoring the obvious historical facts to promote your anti-Bush emotional theory.

The reason the most Americans forgot that Bush was indeed good, was because he was battered and lied about day in and day out for 8 years by a hateful media.

At the same time they were slobbering over, worshipping and lying about Obama. (And in case you forgot, the alternative was McCain, who was beating up Bush almost as badly as Obama was).

It is you who remain 'blind by choice,' as is evidenced by this weak and spurious argument.

[raybbr]

I understand your points. I agree to a certain extent.

Being the "mother of new voter" can you tell me what you pointed to about Bush's presidency, and his actions, that you used to convince the "new voter" that voting for McCain, or any other GOP candidate, was the right choice?

Sure, Bush is for some conservative ideas but his inability to sell conservatism (because I don't think he actually believes in it) is what hurt conservatism more than what he did. IOW, it was more what he didn't do than what he did vis-a-vis conservatism that led to Obama.

Look at the first two years of the GOP Congress that he presided over. What were his major concerns? Immigration, No Child Left Behind (massive intrusion of the Dept of Ed in our lives), Drugs for seniors (another massive increase in the govt.)

He pushed the Patriot Act which was basically written by Biden. Bush played with the liberal establishment instead of fighting them. One only has to look at his vetoes to see he NEVER put a stop to the massive growth of govt.

[a fool in paradise]

- he did not manage/control/attack the financial situation BEFORE it wound up being a crisis in 2007/8, leaving a WIDE GAPING HOLE for Obama to jump through.

I, and others, suspect that there was a deliberate strategy from the Left to tank the US economy.

New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae (NYT article September 11, 2003)

The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt -- is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates...

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,'' Mr. Watt said...

Louis Freah and Jamie Gorelick just happen to move from botching national security to becoming experts in the banking industry? And the Jamie moves on to negotiate BP's surrender to Lord Obama?

[a fool in paradise]

Sure, Bush is for some conservative ideas but his inability to sell conservatism (because I don't think he actually believes in it) is what hurt conservatism more than what he did. IOW, it was more what he didn't do than what he did vis-a-vis conservatism that led to Obama.

Flip the worldview and look at the other side of the aisle.

While Barack Obama has not delivered on enough things (ending don't ask don't tell, amnesty for illegals, closing Gitmo "for real", getting out of Afghanistan, single payer medical system ONLY...), they still see headway being made on advancing their socialist agenda and see plenty of fellow travellers in his administration (who unfortunately get outted for spouting Marxist crap).

I don't think you will find any red diaper doper babies saying that Barack is "sullying" what it means to be a liberal. They just deny he's a liberal at all and tag him as "center-right" (for remaining engaged in Afghanistan).

[DrDeb]

As I noted, DELUSIONAL!

[raybbr]

The media and left lied and belittled Bush for 8 years

And he never fought back. Why?

The media lied about Iraq for 6 years

And the White House didn't try very hard to counter those lies.

The media overblew Republican "scandals" and ignored Democrat crimes

Yep, and once again the GOP didn't fight back.

There was a Democrat caused economic crash, conveniently timed right before the election to do the most damage

So, either Bush and the GOP were part of it, or they ignored what was happening. Which is worse?

BTW, Bush allowed Chris Cox to eliminate the uptick rule on short selling which turned out to be a major part of the problem. It gave Soros and his players the ability to initiate the damage.

McCain, as a candidate, stank

I bet you voted for him anyway, didn't you? (As did I).

McCain is a RINO without principle

Yep.

McCain campaigned against Bush but refused to campaign against Obama

So? What does that have to do with Bush's record?

The media lied and exalted Obama

Yep.

The American people were stupid enough to believe the garbage Obama was spouting

True. But, what did Bush do as a conservative president to disallow those ideas. How, in eight years, did Bush enact and therefore provide, an alternative to the liberal policies?

The youth of America voted for an American Idol and not a candidate

Yep.

Everyone, including RINO Republicans refused to admit that Obama was a radical

Including Bush, BTW.

Billions of illegal foreign dollars were spent on electing Obama

Not one cry of "foul" from the president of the United States or his DOJ on that, was there?

[Grunthor]

Ask him if a compassionate conservative is just a big spending Republican.

[STARWISE]

ROFL !!

Did you read what you wrote ?

Simple minds = simple logic
(with a big helping of raging BDS,
childish bitterness and hate).

Really sad ...

[swpa_mom]

First of all, Bush wasn’t on the ballot in 2008. The media sure tried to convince you he was, though. President Bush had clarity, that’s the best way I can describe it. Now, because the method for most is to bash that good man, everyone seems to need to add the caveat that “I didn’t agree with everything”. BS. I’m far beyond that.

During the election 2008, my son was on a college campus. I visited that campus and you saw Obama signs everywhere, and it was fueled by who those kids listen to, Colbert, Stewart and stuff on the net. Oh, and just trying to not be their parents. These kids really thought the draft was coming back and just as it was frightening for my generation in the 1970s, they too were nervous. Have times changed? Oh yes. Those same kids are now out there trying to earn a living, they understand the burden of taxes and they realize that enabling another generation to rely on the government for everything isn’t what makes this country great.

One of the reasons I lurked here for so long was the bashing of Bush. It’s tiring AND it’s fueled by the nonstop media hatred and lies told about that man. Some bought into the lies. I never play the game of “tell me why you liked him”.

You’ve made up your mind. That’s fine. I’m old enough to remember an actor from California attacked by the media as well. The difference - then, we had only the big 3 networks to report, along with liberal based newspapers.

This current administration *IS* my concern. This current administartion *IS* a total disaster, there is no leadership anywhere, the economy is in tatters and the world doesn’t love us as was promised. And, oddly enough, I never see the same negative passion directed at Obama as I see directed at Bush and/or Palin. The conservatives who voted for Obama, are they asked to defend their vote? Or, is it just okay for you to hear that they didn’t like Bush? I have never had an Obama voter explain how he or she would vote FOR Obama, knowing he was an avowed leftist, just because they didnt’ like Bush. I would accept that person not voting, but to vote FOR an avowed leftist...it’s never made sense.

And this is why I lurked for so long, BDS/PDS is real and it gets old very quickly.

[swpa_mom]

after reading your subsequent posts, I see you’re just a Bush hater.

Please don’t respond to any of my posts, I’m not interested.

[ohioWfan]

Being the "mother of new voter" can you tell me what you pointed to about Bush's presidency, and his actions, that you used to convince the "new voter" that voting for McCain, or any other GOP candidate, was the right choice?

Why do you keep ignoring McCain himself, ray? That he campaigned against Bush? That he was a horrific, wishy-washy candidate who said whatever he needed to say to get his name in the headlines and ingratiate himself to the leftist media?

IOW, why are you blaming Bush for McCain when McCain was the political foe of Bush for 8 years?

[raybbr]

after reading your subsequent posts, I see you’re just a Bush hater.

Point to the word "hate" in my posts. I am providing counter arguments to others' posts.

[ohioWfan]

OK. You got me, ray.

Everything, everywhere is Bush's fault.

No matter what the facts, it's Bushes fault (love the blame-Bush-for-the-economic-crash part. Amusing).

Now why does this all sound so familiar??? Who ELSE is still blaming President Bush for everything?? Hmmmm???

[swpa_mom]

Pardon me, these are people who voted FOR Obama due to their disagreement with President Bush. McCain never even enters the discussion.

I still want a conservative to explain to me how on earth they can vote FOR an avowed leftist like Obama. Yelling Bush or McCain doesn’t answer the question. Stay home, don’t vote. But, those who voted FOR Obama made an effort to do so.

And, once again, this is why I lurked. I just don’t see the same passion directed at this disastrous administration.

[raybbr]

IOW, why are you blaming Bush for McCain when McCain was the political foe of Bush for 8 years?

Gee, I wonder why?

President Bush endorsed Sen. John McCain for president on Wednesday, saying the presumptive Republican nominee has the "character, courage and perseverance" to lead the country. Here...

[LibFreeUSA]

A “strong” President?

Didn’t have the guts to secure our borders?

Didn’t have the guts to defend himself against all the Libtard accusations? Even Tokyo Rove admitted as much.

I accept that I can’t convince anyone who’s in love with the Bushes, but the facts speak for themselves.