According to court records, Ivins had a "history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, actions, plans" and Ivins' psychiatrist, Dr. David S, Irwin called him "homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions."
In 2001, USAMRIID was incredibly lax in many areas of security. FBI records show that everyone at USAMRIID knew that security was lax. The military people were constantly complaining about how lax the civilian scientists were. They even let Ivins work with dangerous pathogens alone and unsupervised in his BSL-3 lab at night and on weekends. Hopefully, new procedures will keep such mentally unstable people away from dangerous pathogens.
"I don't know about you, but to me, sociopaths stand out as clearly as if they are wearing signs. I cannot tolerate being around them."
They give me the creeps, too. But, you usually have to get them talking about other people or one of their obsessions before you can tell that they're sociopaths.
"Who was this Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, and since she was in New York, how could she know a fellow (one of many) at Ft. Detrick, or have a clue as to what kind of work he was doing for his fellowship? That whole explanation sounds fishy to me. He wasn't fingered by Rosenberg."
Barbara Hatch Rosenberg was a science adviser to President Clinton. She was a bioterrorism expert for the Federation of American Scientists. She's also an activist opposed to U.S. Government work on bioweapons. She attended Biological and Toxic Weapons Conventions in Geneva. At the one in July of 2001, she was enraged when the U.S. refused to allow outsider inspections of U.S. government labs. At the one in November of 2001 she was already pointing the finger at Hatfill (without naming him) and claiming that the U.S. government was behind the anthrax attacks.
She never met Dr. Hatfill. She only learned of him by contacting others in a search for the person at Ft. Detrick who would most likely be a rogue scientist or a CIA operative helping the government to cover up some illegal bioweapons manufacturing facility. In one newspaper interview, she described how Hatfill's name came up. As I recall, it was during an exchange of emails with other people she knew.
Rosenberg's activities are documented, step by step, as she campaigned for eight monthsto get Dr. Hatfill investigated by the FBI. Click HERE for the timeline of her campaign, showing all the newspaper articles describing here campaign. Click HERE for a detailed description of her campaign using the Federation of American Scientists' web site to express her beliefs.
I've talked 5 times on the phone with Dr. Hatfill. And I've communicated many time with his lawyer. If the newspaper articles and FAS postings aren't enough, you can also look at the court records in Hatfill's lawsuit against the New York Times. Nicholas Kristoff of the New York Times helped Rosenberg by writing columns pointing the finger at Hatfill.
Ed Lake said:
“According to court records, Ivins had a “history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, actions, plans” and Ivins’ psychiatrist, Dr. David S, Irwin called him “homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions.”
-JEAN DULEY
The media has been characterizing Dr. Ivins as being a “homicidal sociopath”, yet every bad thing we’re hearing about the man is coming from only two sources: a “therapist” and a brother he hadn’t spoken to in more than 20 years.
Let’s start with the therapist, a woman with a long police record including multiple recent DUIs.
Look at the affidavit she filed. Let’s see what she says....”
http://www.hereinreality.com/anthrax/whoisjeanduley.html
For safety reasons, they didn't like anyone working alone in a lab, especially where dangerous agents are concerned. OTOH, people eager to get experimental results tend to ignore those safety rules because of the difficulty in getting someone to come in and just sit around the lab while they're working odd hours; the compromise is that people entering the facility at odd hours have to sign in and let security know where they expect to be, so that security can check up on them. IOW, there was nothing unusual about Ivins working alone or at odd hours. By that criteria, you'd better be seeing a judge to get an arrest warrant for exDemMom, because she clearly is a criminal, having done exactly the same thing. Science is not a 9-5 job.
As I have said before, I am highly skeptical about the "evidence" against Ivins. Much of it, like his working hours, applies to any scientist. Statements about his mental status, even those entered in the court records, are likely to be self-serving testimony offered by people with their own agenda. A scapegoat was needed, and he's a perfect one now that he can't defend himself.
I never met Hatfill. But there's only one degree of separation between him and me.
But, you usually have to get them talking about other people or one of their obsessions before you can tell that they're sociopaths.
They don't need to talk about obsessions (OCD is a different condition anyway) for me to pick up on their psychopathy. Even when they learn to act normal, and they seem normal on the surface, I pick up on it. They are the most dangerous when they realize that they can't manipulate you because you know them for what they are...
She imagined she could hassle the federal government enough to manipulate the investigation AWAY from her and her friends, and it turned out she was absolutely correct.
That doesn't mean her friends did the work ~ but her credentials were such the FBI and others were compelled to address her suspicions and speculations before those of others.
The peculiarly formatted addresses on the envelopes were written exactly as they appeared in a publication issued by an organization to which Ivin's wife belonged.
Postal Experts understood immediately how peculiar those addresses were and looked for them on the internet ~ and found them!
The atypical structure and content of the addresses is much more than a Koinkydink ~ and it can be dealt with two ways ~ that maybe Ivins did it (which the FBI would love to believe) or that maybe the conspiracy was a bit more widespread and sophisticated than we've imagined and someone decided Ivins could be blamed for it and measures were taken to make sure that happened.
A state agent would have taken action to cover its tracks. This latest item ~ that the FBI KNEW Ivins had ODd on Tylenol and didn't tell anyone else ~ suggests that sort of thing was still going on during the very time the FBI was telling us Dr. Ivins did the job.
If there was a state agent involved I think this runs us down to a couple of folks, one of whom is a Moslem at the FBI.
So, Ed, it ain't over 'til it's over! And it ain't over.