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Developing: Pentagon Releases DADT Study, Finds Few Risks To Ending Policy
Mediaite.com ^ | 11/30/2010 | Mark Joyella

Posted on 11/30/2010 11:43:33 AM PST by OldDeckHand

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To: OldDeckHand

I sure hope all these new homosexual recruits make good combat soldiers.

In a few years, we will know because they will be the only ones left to “hold down the fort”.

Everyone is railing against the wiki leaks...when you consider what Obama, Pelosi, Hillary, Gates and the rest of the minion in control of this government has done to the USA and the Military...it is a pretty lame event in comparison.


41 posted on 11/30/2010 1:08:25 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (BOYCOTT NEVADA...!!!!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Good point.


42 posted on 11/30/2010 1:23:32 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: OldDeckHand

IIRC, I remember reading something that said this survey was done AFTER it had been announced that DADT would be repealed, as if it was a sure thing to be done - maybe after the CA court decision? Anyway, seems like if they surveyed the troops in the context of the troops thinking it was already decided, it would not be the same result as if they were surveyed while it was anticipated DADT would be in effect indefinitely.


43 posted on 11/30/2010 1:27:14 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Future Snake Eater
Exactly why I didn’t bother responding to their so-called “survey.” It’s perfectly obvious that the powers-that-be don’t give a $h!+ what we think.

They never have given a rats @$$ what we think. I took that survey, and there was not one question about this issue. I know one thing, this decision will hasten my retirement.

44 posted on 11/30/2010 1:29:38 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (De fund the TSA.)
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To: Retain Mike; OldDeckHand; rbg81; Hans; TCH; Red Dog #1; so_real; Cicero
“The private, legal sexual conduct of military personnel off duty and off base, whether homosexual or heterosexual, should not be of interest to the Pentagon leadership. The bottom line is that an individual’s performance in uniform is what should count. Sexual contact on base is already governed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) - the judicial code that all military personnel are subject to”

Retain Mike,

Your representative must be something else...Here's few points that came to my mind (and probably yours also): 1) No distinction is made with regards to on or off base or on or off duty sexual conduct by the UCMJ. A military member is never really "off duty". 2) It's more than just the individual member's performance, their impact on the team is also of vital concern. 3)To help enforce the UCMJ and other rules, men's and women's quarters are segregated. Considering 14th Amendment equal protection rights, how can your representative not contemplate providing similar protection against sexual misconduct by members of the same sex? 4) Maybe your congress "person" might want to also discuss the rates of sexual misconduct by homosexuals versus heterosexuals.

Sadly, it's very clear your congress critter has, at best, a limited understanding of the UMCJ, does not care about the welfare of other service members and/or has no idea what he's doing.

45 posted on 11/30/2010 1:33:41 PM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: OldDeckHand

It will only become natural for the homosexuals to hang out together outside of work, which will then lead to relationships and cliques based on a sex act.

My son is in the infantry, lives in the barracks, he and his buddies are together 24/7, there is no added dynamics of a sexual relationship. There is absolutely NO WAY relationships will be avoided!!!!


46 posted on 11/30/2010 1:36:24 PM PST by panthermom
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To: OldDeckHand

funny how fags will be MIA.


47 posted on 11/30/2010 1:38:31 PM PST by devistate one four (Read the candidate b 4 voting! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: Hans

As you mention Private Manning it is interesting to note that this possible gender reassignment candidate that is being held for Court Martial for the secutity leaks is not being mentioned as homosexual by any of the media other than an occasional reference by Fox.

It is so hidden the even Mark Levin going over the Winky-Dink summary last night left it out — either intentionally or because it is sooooo under reported.


48 posted on 11/30/2010 1:39:03 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: OldDeckHand

I doubt it was a valid survey - probably run by gays


49 posted on 11/30/2010 1:44:54 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Red Dog #1

Yep. Peter DeFazio. Mainstream Oregon.


50 posted on 11/30/2010 1:51:08 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: pnh102

Excellent question.


51 posted on 11/30/2010 1:54:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

It is called GIGO = garbage in, garbage out.


52 posted on 11/30/2010 2:11:59 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01

I think that you are quite right.


53 posted on 11/30/2010 2:23:11 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Freedom4US; All
Polls have long been used as propaganda to lend legitimacy in debates. That is, bogus polls.

You are correct.

NOTHING is stopping those who oppose this leftist death wish from conducting their own survey. Why not think outside of the box -access to the opinion of troops is no longer controlled by a gatekeeper when there is the internet. Someone should simply commission an online anonymous survey and then publish their own report...

Who on the right has the capability and the cajones to punch the homosexual agenda bully in the nose?

54 posted on 11/30/2010 2:25:26 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Red Dog #1

What of “blood contact” in battle. I suppose this reality is of no concern for the stupid PC politicians?


55 posted on 11/30/2010 3:01:12 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: DBeers

That sounds like a very good idea.

Maybe freepmail some people serving in the military right now, either as reservists or active duty.


56 posted on 11/30/2010 3:29:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: OldDeckHand; All

“The study found 70 percent of troops surveyed believed repealing the law would have mixed, positive, or no effect, while 30 percent predicted problems”

As usual, the press is spinning the stats. Here is what a DoD release said:

“U.S. Army Gen. Carter Ham, commander of U.S. Army Europe, said the study found that 50 to 55 percent of people surveyed said there would be no major effect if the repeal passed, while 15 to 20 percent said they’d expect a positive change. Only 30 percent said repeal would have a negative impact.”

http://www.dodlive.mil/index.php/2010/11/dod-releases-report-on-the-impact-of-repealing-dadt/

Notice how they try to make it sound like 70% are for the change. In reality only 15-20% could be considered “for” the change. Whereas, 30% were against it. The biggest group 50-55% were essentially neutral....they were NOT for it per se. So, you have 15-20% for and 30% against and a big mushy middle. That is NOT 70% for it as reported.


57 posted on 11/30/2010 4:52:57 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
"So, you have 15-20% for and 30% against and a big mushy middle. That is NOT 70% for it as reported."

And that's only the people who actually responded, well less than a third of those who were polled, from what I understand. If you had an accurate and inclusive survey, my guess is that it's probably much less than 20% of those currently serving that support the repeal. People are afraid to say other, primarily because they don't want to upset the brass. It's the oldest story in the military.

58 posted on 11/30/2010 5:00:51 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Retain Mike

Gees...and I was feeling bad about being represented by Upton. O:)


59 posted on 12/01/2010 9:04:54 AM PST by Red Dog #1
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