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To: El Sordo

>>“If all military authority for orders originate with the commander-in-chief, and the person claiming to be commander-in-chief is not legitimate, then all subordinate orders are invalid.”
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>So the military is effectively disbanded?

In a very real & legal way, yes.
What you’re seeing now is a desperate appeal to positional power/authority:
“We’re your superior officers, so you have to obey our orders!” {Errr... I seem to remember Nuremberg...}*
It’s even in the civilian-side, demonstrated quite well when Nancy Pelosi was asked what *Constitutional* authority the Congress had to mandate healthcare and she laughed asking “are you serious?”.

The question is whether or not the people will be sated with an appeal to illegitimate authority or not.
If they are accepted, then out Republic dies then and there; if they are not accepted, well, then things get interesting.

*The 6th Amendment says this:
In *all* criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to [..] have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses
in his favor [..]

By not allowing witnesses in this trial it is clear that this CANNOT [legitimately] be a criminal trial; furthermore, it reveals that those conducting the trial are NOT concerned with upholding the Constitution. {Violations of the UCMJ (Military Law), which covers insubordination, missing movement, and all the other charges against the LTC are considered crimes under the UCMJ.}

>Everybody go home?

Many people would have a visceral “NO!” reaction, but yes.
It may surprise you, but we did NOT have a regular/professional army until AFTER WWII. Having, and paying for, a professional/regular army encourages its use by those who control it, the added ‘inertia’ of raising an army to overcome by military powers is actually a good way to keep the army from being used abroad unnecessarily (i.e. World Police).


46 posted on 12/01/2010 10:54:15 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; ..

.. Ping!

From the lib military jag site, CAAFlog

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LTC Lakin voir dire
December 1, 2010

A thought as we get closer to trial. As the Greeley Gazette article

http://goo.gl/irOQZ

and the current postings at such places as PostandEmail, safeguardourconstitution, and wing nut daily, demonstrate there is a great deal of criticism about Judge Lind.

Some of that criticism has been harsh and excessive. Other than a statement from LTC Lakin’s lawyer that the judge was right, there has been no public disavowel from LTC Lakin. I don’t know he required to do so, except in an effort to get clemency. But . . . .

Will the new defense counsel voir dire the military judge and challenge her or ask her to recuse herself?

If this is to be a members trial, then I think she can clearly say the right words in response to a voir dire and not recuse herself and not to have been found in error on appeal.

But, what if LTC Lakin elects a judge alone trial? Maybe that’s different (unless it is part of a PTA)? Implied bias can be a reason to challenge a military judge just as much as members.

Remember the Marine case from some years ago, where the SJA got heavily involved in trying to remove the MJ because of her alleged relationship with the defense counsel.

http://court-martial-ucmj.com/lakin-2/ltc-lakin-10/

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Sidebar:

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Federal Rule of Evidence change
December 1, 2010

An important change to the Federal Rules of Evidence begins today. That means, absent Presidential action, the rule will take affect in the military no later than 18 months from now. This is a significant change requiring the prosecution to corroborate statements against penal interest.

On December 1, 2010, a new amendment to the Federal Rules of Evidence takes effect.

http://federalevidence.com/blog/2010/december/new-fre-amendment-fre-804b3-declarations-against-interest-takes-effect-today-part?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FederalEvidenceReview+(Federal+Evidence+Review+-+Highlighting+Recent+Federal+Evidence+Cases+and+Developments)

The rule concerns the admission of statements against interest under FRE 804(b)(3) has been amended so that the corroborating circumstances requirement for admission of a declaration against interest applies to statements against penal interest introduced by the government as well as those by the defendant in criminal cases. This requirement previously applied to statements introduced by the defendant.

http://court-martial-ucmj.com/evidence/federal-rule-of-evidence-change/

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Prayers for Ltc Lakin, his legal team, and the brave warriors who persevere fighting for truth.


49 posted on 12/01/2010 11:35:20 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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