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The Incredible Stupidity Of Investigating Google For Acting Like A Search Engine
SearchEngineLand.com ^ | November 30, 2010 | Danny Sullivan

Posted on 12/01/2010 6:48:40 PM PST by Still Thinking

I did a search at Google today for “cars” and was shocked. Rather than list links allowing me to search for “cars” on Bing, Yahoo, Baidu, Voila, Naver and Yandex, Google instead favored its own search results. I’m glad the EU will be investigating whether this favoritism violates anti-trust laws.

Consider the evidence. Here’s a search on Google for cars:

As you can clearly see, none of the competing search engines I’ve named are listed in the top results. Rather than show them, Google instead shows pages about cars that it has collected across the web using its own technology.

Google’s behavior like this is preventing its competitors from receiving valuable traffic, clearly something Google has done to ensure it remains dominant. I mean, consider that you can indeed search at Bing and find results for cars:

Or you can search on Baidu and get results for cars:

But a search for “cars” at Google reveals none of this, to the searcher. It sends them directly to sites about cars! By doing so, rather than sending searchers to other search engines, Google abuses its dominant market position to prevent competing search engines from doing well.

How “Unbiased” Google Should Appear

How might “unbiased” search results at Google look, if we could finally get some decent “search neutrality” laws. I’ll simulate this for a search on “cars” not with an illustrated mockup but instead actual links that you can click on, so you can experience the better experience searchers would have, if Google wouldn’t favor itself. Here’s my interactive demo:

You searched for “cars”

About 6 results (0.08 seconds)

cars – Bing

bing.com/search?q=cars

cars – Yahoo! Search

search.yahoo.com/search?p=cars

百度搜索_cars

www.baidu.com/s?wd=cars

Yandex: has found 31 million answers

yandex.com/yandsearch?text=cars&lr=200

cars :: 네이버 통합검색

search.naver.com/search.naver?query=cars

Voila – Recherche de cars

search.ke.voila.fr/S/voila?rtype=kw&bhv=web_fr&profil=voila&rdata=cars

Please try the demo about to understand directly how much better Google would be as a search engine, if rather than favoring its “own” results, it instead made you leave to conduct your search elsewhere.

Enough Sarcasm

Time to get serious. I’ve watched the various arguments from some vertical search engines that Google is somehow “favoring” its own vertical search engine to harm them. On the face of it, it’s easy to get worked up and decide there’s some wrong doing.

Google points you to its own shopping search rather than a competing shopping search engine! Google even puts a box right within its own search results to entice you there, as you can see in this search for macbook pro:

How unfair to other shopping search engines. Please, someone, some government body, step in and prevent this from happening! Please ensure that Google doesn’t favor its own services this way!

Some Common Sense & Logic

If you step back from the rhetoric, the political jockeying, the concerns that Google is just too big so let’s use any argument to stop it — if you logically think about this argument from a user perspective — it makes no sense.

Google is a search engine. A search engine’s job is to point you to destination sites that have the information you are seeking, not to send you to other search engines. Getting upset that Google doesn’t point to other search engines is like getting upset that the New York Times doesn’t simply have headlines followed by a single paragraph of text that says “read about this story in the Wall Street Journal.”

It’s insane. It really is. A person comes to Google for answers. Back in the “old” days when search engines were just getting started, that generally meant simply getting lists of web pages (though even back then, even before Google, search engines also had some vertical search engines).

Over time, it has made more sense for search engines like Google — or Bing for that matter — to provide a better search experience by creating vertical search engines and blending them into regular search results (see Search 3.0: The Blended & Vertical Search Revolution for more about this).

It’s their job. If they are not allowed to do this, they cannot serve their users well. They are ultimately forced to do the idiotic thing I illustrated above and say to searchers, “Go away and search elsewhere.”

Let’s go back to that shopping search. Exactly how is Google favoring itself, again? It has a dedicated shopping search engine that lists external sites, destination sites — sites that are not on Google, for the most part. While some small shopping search engines may wish they had this traffic, they’d get it at the expense of these destination sites.

EU Investigating Google

Back to that European Union investigation. The news about it came out today, and the EU statement says it will investigate allegations in both Google’s editorial and paid results. The statement stresses that it’s just an investigation, not a conclusion:

This initiation of proceedings does not imply that the Commission has proof of any infringements. It only signifies that the Commission will conduct an in-depth investigation of the case as a matter of priority.

For one long account of Foundem’s side of things, a UK-based shopping search engine that’s become a cause célèbre around this issue and which helped prompt the investigation, I recommend reading this story from The Register.

Search Engines = Newspapers

Certainly on the advertising front, both the EU and the US have supported more restrictions about what a publication can do versus its editorial content. Google ultimately is a publication, a guide to the web. Like a newspaper, it can publish whatever it wants. That’s been supported in the US; we’ll see if the EU takes a different view. More important, we’ll see if the EU decides to apply rules about what a search engine can or can’t do versus what Google can or can’t do.

Bing, Google’s chief competitor in many countries, highly touts its own vertical search engines. If it’s unfair for Google, as a search engine, to “favor” its own vertical search engines, then the same should be true for all search engines.

Also see my prior post on this topic, The New York Times Algorithm & Why It Needs Government Regulation. It takes the poor wisdom of an New York Times editorial suggesting that Google needs regulation and flips things around to illustrate how newspaper-like search engines are — and how no newspaper would want to be examined this way. It also touches on things that can be concerning about Google. Goodness knows, it’s not perfect.

But on the vertical search engine front, where does it end? Shopping search not allowed, but not image search? News search but no blog search? Only web search? Even that? Will Google be deemed so dominant that the only way to ensure competition is to literally force it to send people away to competitors?

Postscript: Google now has a blog post up about the issues.



TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: duh; google
Now I'm the farthest thing you'll ever find from a Google fan, but this is ridiculous. I guess if you're desperate to find something worse than a terrible company, your best bet is to look at the government. How DARE they not serve metasearches like Dogpile. Why would we need a search engine that actually...searches?? Obviously they should just all ask each other instead!


1 posted on 12/01/2010 6:48:42 PM PST by Still Thinking
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To: Still Thinking
The business model that makes Google.com work is to sell positioning ~ like advertising in a newspaper. Some spots get more coverage but they pay more.

Also you can think of it as a GIGANTIC Yellow Pages!

I have no problem with their placement algorithms ~ and have used them to my advantage from time to time.

Let a thousand flowers bloom paid for by other people!

2 posted on 12/01/2010 6:52:08 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Still Thinking
"I did a search at Google today for “cars”"

You were searching for the band and instead were directed to automobiles?

3 posted on 12/01/2010 7:14:24 PM PST by Deaf Smith (*Does not use time wisely.)
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To: Still Thinking

Cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTr-ho8E6uc


4 posted on 12/01/2010 7:18:44 PM PST by Deaf Smith (*Does not use time wisely.)
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To: Still Thinking

I think the author missed the point, but can’t tell if they missed it on purpose, by accident, or actually don’t believe the point has any merit.

It’s not that Google provides results for a search. It’s that google provides results for shopping items that take you to places to buy things for which google gets paid.

The user might think google knows you want the cheapest prices, or places close to your home, or places with cheap shipping; but google’s ranking of results puts stores/websites which make google money higher than other web sites that might sell the product more cheaply.

Now, I’m not saying the point is worth being investigated over, or that google doesn’t have the absolute right to freely provide ANY type of results they want to provide — after all, we freely choose to use google, and if we don’t like the results we can choose another search engine. Google at least will allow you to search for other search engines.

But the point being made isn’t as assinine as the article suggests.


5 posted on 12/01/2010 7:27:50 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Still Thinking
Mods, On the post excerpt page, I occasionally get a distortion of text. It looks like it occurs where quotation marks and apostrophes are used. It only occurs on the excerpt page and only with an occasional post. Is this me or is this a bug somewhere? (see excerpt below as it appeared on the except page (not the full post page though)

I did a search at Google today for “cars” and was shocked. Rather than list links allowing me to search for “cars” on Bing, Yahoo, Baidu, Voila, Naver and Yandex, Google instead favored its own search results. I’m glad the EU will be investigating whether this favoritism violates anti-trust laws. Consider the evidence. Here’s a search on Google for cars:As you can clearly see, none of the competing search engines I’ve named are listed in the top results. Rather than show them, Google instead shows pages about cars that it has collected across the web using its own technology.Google’s behavior...

6 posted on 12/01/2010 7:38:41 PM PST by McBuff
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To: Deaf Smith

If I wanted The Cars, I would search on “the cars”.


7 posted on 12/01/2010 8:14:13 PM PST by drubyfive
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To: drubyfive

If you googled “Cars” and hit the Do I Feel Lucky tab, you would have gotten one hit on the Disney movie Cars.


8 posted on 12/01/2010 8:19:45 PM PST by Deaf Smith (*Does not use time wisely.)
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To: McBuff
> I occasionally get a distortion of text. It looks like it occurs where quotation marks and apostrophes are used.

That occurs because the excerpt was copy/pasted from a source that used "smart quotes" or other non-ASCII characters (e.g. the fancy quote/apostrophe characters in Microsoft Word or typesetting programs).

Those non-ASCII characters are sometimes represented by a multiple byte sequence (e.g. Unicode). If your browser and/or operating system don't know how to translate the multi-byte characters into the intended fancy character, they may just print a separate character for each byte of the sequence, so you see 2-3 characters of garbage instead of the quote or apostrophe.

9 posted on 12/01/2010 9:41:49 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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