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Report: Co-pilot moved seat, sent jetliner plummeting
CNN ^ | 11/30/10 | Brad Lendon

Posted on 12/02/2010 4:36:48 AM PST by Straight Vermonter

Edited on 12/02/2010 5:33:19 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]


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1 posted on 12/02/2010 4:36:50 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter

Let me guess, the copilot was yelling Alah Akbar while he was “adjusting his seat.” /sarc


2 posted on 12/02/2010 4:39:45 AM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

There’s already a thread on this one.

The copilot was fighting the pilot for control. Pilot trying to pull up, copilot trying to dive the aircraft.

Something’s fishy in Mecca.


3 posted on 12/02/2010 4:40:28 AM PST by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Happens Everytime. . . . . . . .


4 posted on 12/02/2010 4:41:39 AM PST by DeaconRed (I want some of that Money For Nothing & My Chicks for Free. . . . . . . .)
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To: PLMerite
The copilot was fighting the pilot for control. Pilot trying to pull up, copilot trying to dive the aircraft.

I'm sure an enhanced TSA patdown would have prevented this

5 posted on 12/02/2010 4:46:30 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: PLMerite
Something’s fishy in Mecca

Yeah, it seems implausible as described here.

6 posted on 12/02/2010 4:49:27 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Voter#537

Especially over Macho Grande.


7 posted on 12/02/2010 4:49:43 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: MrEdd

Over Macho Grande?


8 posted on 12/02/2010 4:53:38 AM PST by fnord (497 and a half feet of rope? ... I just carry it.)
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To: anymouse

I am with you. Pilot was probably from Pok-i-stan.


9 posted on 12/02/2010 4:53:51 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Rumack: You’d better tell the Captain we’ve got to land as soon as we can. This woman has to be gotten to a hospital.
Elaine Dickinson: A hospital? What is it?
Rumack: It’s a big building with patients, but that’s not important right now.


10 posted on 12/02/2010 4:53:53 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response / "...and that's why the color yellow makes me sad, I think.")
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To: libertylover

Yeah, the copilot supposedly has almost 1000 hours, you’d think he’d know to pull back on the stick to lift the nose.

Unless when he adjusted the seat a beer can floated out and jammed something...

/s


11 posted on 12/02/2010 4:54:53 AM PST by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: libertylover

Everyone who drives a car knows you adjust your seat and the mirrors before you hit the road.

This does sound a bit fishy.

I am no pilot but I watch TV and everyone knows when the plane is headed down, you pull back on the stick.

Sounds intentional on the part of the co-pilot


12 posted on 12/02/2010 4:55:50 AM PST by Venturer
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To: yldstrk

I mean co-pilot from Pok-i-stan.

Pilot was sane. Co-pilot was some kind of Moslem terrorist.


13 posted on 12/02/2010 4:55:50 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: PLMerite

I did a search.


14 posted on 12/02/2010 4:55:56 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: fnord

I’ll never be over Macho Grande.


15 posted on 12/02/2010 4:57:12 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Co-pilot probably had to go. Indians don’t like indoor toilets or plumbing.


16 posted on 12/02/2010 4:57:15 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Straight Vermonter
he was just texting his BFF, Allah, and well you know the rest


17 posted on 12/02/2010 4:58:43 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to thread-cop you. Just meant to source what info I had.


18 posted on 12/02/2010 5:01:48 AM PST by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

< img=dumbass picture from That 70s Show >


19 posted on 12/02/2010 5:07:59 AM PST by earlJam
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To: Straight Vermonter

At least he wasn’t trained enough to flip it over on its back and then dive it straight down.


20 posted on 12/02/2010 5:12:59 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Straight Vermonter
...concluded that the 25-year-old co-pilot had not been trained in the specific scenario the jet encountered and “probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency.”

The other posters here are right, there is something fishy. This would seem to be a fundamental, like flight-school 101, type thing. I'm not even a pilot but let me take a wild guess at a simple procedure to recover: retard the throttles so as not to over-speed the engines, and gradually pull back on the column so as not to over-stress the airframe by pulling too many Gs...

I mean, come on, the guy is a co-pilot, he is supposed to know what the basic flight controls are, right? This is a cover-up for something.

21 posted on 12/02/2010 5:22:39 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Venturer

>I am no pilot but I watch TV and everyone knows when the plane is headed down, you pull back on the stick.

Assuming you’re not flying inverted. Best rule of thumb is to move the stick away from
the ground that is approaching. Even works for the rudder when in a knife edge.


22 posted on 12/02/2010 5:30:57 AM PST by soycd
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To: ThunderSleeps

The last part of training course is recovery from dive and landing, neither are normally of great importance at Allah School of Flight.


23 posted on 12/02/2010 5:35:06 AM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Co-pilot sucks!

Mike

24 posted on 12/02/2010 5:38:41 AM PST by MichaelP (It's the end of the world as they know it, and I'm so glad!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

“The aviation agency report concluded that the 25-year-old co-pilot had not been trained in the specific scenario the jet encountered and “probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency.””

Like I really believe that. Previous report had him pushing hard on the yoke as the captain pulled back on his.


25 posted on 12/02/2010 5:39:33 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: yldstrk
Pilot was probably from Pok-i-stan.

Co-Pilot. Pilot saved the plane.

26 posted on 12/02/2010 5:40:22 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Straight Vermonter
This story has been repeated now a bunch of times. It is BS. No one who gets to be a co-pilot on a commercial airliner doesn't know how to bring an airplane out of a dive, nor do unintentional 7000 foot dives occur because someone bumps into something.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 12/02/2010 5:48:26 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: SeeSac

Thos happened years ago when Pilot was letting Stew sit on his lap and drive.
barbra ann


28 posted on 12/02/2010 5:51:33 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: barb-tex

The Indian airlines are expanding so rapidly from a very low base, that they are putting barely qualified pilots in the seats. They don’t have enough ex-military pilots and..if memory serves..Indian Airlines had about 30 domestic jets 10 years ago.
Muslim’s are a minority in India and are more unlikely to get these kinds of jobs...


29 posted on 12/02/2010 6:17:13 AM PST by Oldexpat
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