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America's Second Most Violent City Is Firing Half Its Police Department (Stay out of Camden,NJ)
Business Insider ^ | 12/03/2010 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 12/03/2010 8:01:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1. I wonder if those houses in the last set were torn down or burned down. It is interesting that one of the homeowners in that street still seems to take some pride in their house and they have even painted it (along with adding the grills to their porch).

2. The mural artist has enough talent to get out of there.

3. One of the odd things I found when I was cleaning out my parent's house was a book on the history of Camden, N.J. I know this isn't important, but who else am I going to tell?

61 posted on 12/03/2010 11:22:07 AM PST by wideminded
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To: moovova; from occupied ga
Firing police officers is wrong, and the pols allowing this should be run out of town.

According to Wikipedia, since 2005 the Camden police department has been run by the state of New Jersey.

62 posted on 12/03/2010 11:29:02 AM PST by wideminded
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To: moovova
Firing police officers is wrong, and the pols allowing this should be run out of town. Govt’s Numero Uno job is to provide protection for the citizens.

Pure BS. Most police officers do not "protect." Rather, they show up after the crime has been committed. Yes, by making an arrest, they temporaily prevent the person from committing a crime in the future, but that is not the same as protection. We are an overpoliced society. Many police forces can and should be cut.

63 posted on 12/03/2010 11:48:53 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

You’re better late to the party than never...


64 posted on 12/03/2010 5:34:13 PM PST by moovova (Don't let Obama spoil the word "hope" for you...)
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To: SeekAndFind

They tried that in the past when they sent the State Police into Camden; they pulled them out very quickly due to the high number of justified shootings by the police. Like Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now, they showed the state how to win; the state lacked the resolve to do so.


65 posted on 01/19/2011 2:57:15 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

I think we have may too many cops in this state; most Americans don’t see the same number of policemen that residents of bloated urban (and surrounding suburban) bureaucracies do every day. The number of municipal employees in NJ of all kinds is bizarre, from the education industry to law enforcement, fire protection, etc.; they are nice ideas, but completely unsustainable. What we are seeing now is the result of ignoring what we were seeing twenty years ago.


66 posted on 01/19/2011 3:01:13 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Labyrinthos

You’re right; the bloated police departments in our cities do little to prevent crime while running up an incredible bill. Urban law enforcement should be like the military: 4 years & out. You’ll always have a pool of interested candidates, the costs wouldn’t skyrocket due to burnt-out long-timers, and the young blood will give the gangs a run for their money.


67 posted on 01/19/2011 3:06:50 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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Why do you believe the Camden PD was preventing crime and protecting citizens?

Most people who live in places like that are good people in a very, very bad situation. They’d be much better off with armed militias than with a conventional municipal union PD.


68 posted on 01/19/2011 3:24:11 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: WayneS

Agree completely .


69 posted on 01/19/2011 3:25:27 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
Why do you believe the Camden PD was preventing crime and protecting citizens?

I didn't say I "believe the Camden PD was preventing crime and protecting citizens".

I said "Govt’s Numero Uno job is to provide protection for the citizens."

While I do not want the govt making me buy health insurance or telling me I can't have salt on my French Fries at McDonalds, I do believe the police should be preventing crime/protecting citizens. We pay for that protection with our taxes...and, if we're not getting that protection, we should be talking (yelling) at our politicians to right the situation. If our politicians don't fix it, then we get new politicians.

Whether the Camden PD is doing a good job or not, I don't know. From other comments in this thread, it doesn't sound like they are. But if I lived in Camden, I'd want what I was paying for.

70 posted on 01/19/2011 8:08:48 AM PST by moovova (Don't let Obama spoil the word "hope" for you...)
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To: SeekAndFind

That literally could be what hell looks like.


71 posted on 03/08/2011 2:55:07 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals are drooling buffoons (politicians and bureaucrats) backed by satanic goons (union thugs).)
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Looks like the perfect test bed to determine if an "Escape from New York"-ish solution is practical.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

72 posted on 03/08/2011 3:28:00 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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