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America's Second Most Violent City Is Firing Half Its Police Department (Stay out of Camden,NJ)
Business Insider ^ | 12/03/2010 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 12/03/2010 8:01:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The second most violent city in America just approved plans to layoff half its police force, according to NBC New York.

Camden, N.J. will fire one in four city workers on Jan. 18, including half of police.

This comes just days after Newark, N.J. fired 167 police officers, which marked the biggest force reduction in 32 years.

Camden was named the second most violent city based FBI crime data that came out last week. Newark was named the 23 most violent city in America.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: camden; newjersey; police
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1 posted on 12/03/2010 8:01:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess they’ll just have to be replaced by Obamas Civilian Defense Force, the one as well armed and funded as our military.


2 posted on 12/03/2010 8:06:25 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Firing police officers is wrong, and the pols allowing this should be run out of town. Govt’s Numero Uno job is to provide protection for the citizens.

Wanna bet there are still street sweepers, librarians and building inspectors still employed? (Yeah, yeah, I know...the street sweepers aren’t doing such a good job on the streets pictured above.)


3 posted on 12/03/2010 8:07:10 AM PST by moovova (Don't let Obama spoil the word "hope" for you...)
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To: mountn man

God what a disaster. Camden looks like a war zone.

Maybe some places should be destroyed so they can start over. With apologies to the decent people of Camden, maybe a place like that just can’t be saved/rehabilitated.


4 posted on 12/03/2010 8:08:23 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind
why not lay off 50% of the bureaucrats, pencil pushers and secretaries? This is the same old sh#t the federal government does.

They shut down parks, passport offices, slow down essentials but never get rid of secretaries, crappy art exhibits, NPR funding, grants for idiotic studies on (insert favorite perversion or liberal cause) or government cars, private jets for congressmen and their families.

I say, good then. Get rid of the cops, let the Beserkers loose and release the dogs... let anarchy rein and when we see a couple of the mayor or council members family lying in the street we can, tsk, tsk..

Just remember to Vote Democrat, cause they'll fix this problem. Just need to tax more rich folk.

5 posted on 12/03/2010 8:08:50 AM PST by Dick Vomer (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: mountn man

This is Gov. Chris Christie’s problem now. He’s got to address this if the Camden Mayor won’t or is helpless.

Maybe he should send the NJ National Guard to Patrol the Streets.


6 posted on 12/03/2010 8:09:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: mountn man
"I guess they’ll just have to be replaced by Obamas Civilian Defense Force..."

I'm thinking TSA should set-up xray scanners and "gropper/agents" on these streets to look for weapons. (How long would they last here?)

7 posted on 12/03/2010 8:10:08 AM PST by moovova (Don't let Obama spoil the word "hope" for you...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just level the place, it’s much easier.


8 posted on 12/03/2010 8:10:13 AM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

These cities should just re-organize and become state territory. Many, Many cities will soon lay off police and fire employees to increase payments to the retirement funds of existing and retired employees..plus their premium health care.


9 posted on 12/03/2010 8:10:59 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: moovova

We have way too many cops in this country and most cities just can’t afford to pay the high salaries and corresponding retirement benefits. That’s the way it is and it’s getting worse by the day.


10 posted on 12/03/2010 8:11:42 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe they’re just tired of being only the SECOND most violent city in the United States...


11 posted on 12/03/2010 8:13:52 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: SeekAndFind

Word is that cops (even before the layoffs) wouldn’t go into Camden if they didn’t have to...


12 posted on 12/03/2010 8:18:54 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the walls could talk, I doubt we’d want to hear what they would say.


13 posted on 12/03/2010 8:21:26 AM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: SeekAndFind

How New Jersey Legislature can fix +/-90% of their problems with inner-city violence:

1) Repeal New Jersey’s gun laws.
2) Pre-empt localities from having their own gun laws.
3) Pass ‘Castle Doctrine’ and ‘Self Defense’ laws.
3a) Due to the almost unimaginable severity of the current problems, POSSIBLY have to wait through one or two years of increased violence and murder rates as ‘the wheat separates from the chaff’, so to speak.
4) begin to reap the societal benefits of allowing people to defend THEMSELVES, as crime and violence rates drastically decrease, and decent, hard-working, honest people once again become willing to live and work in these cities.


14 posted on 12/03/2010 8:23:12 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: SeekAndFind

WHAT??
This is a Socialist PARADISE run by Democrats for DECADES!!

Just tax the evil rich white people more. That’ll solve the problem,right?


15 posted on 12/03/2010 8:27:35 AM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
We have way too many cops in this country...

Not to mention the fact that those laid-off cops, as well as the ones still employed, contribute a lot to those crime statistics. They still will I guess, but at least the out-of-work ones won't be able to hide behind their badges while doing so.

16 posted on 12/03/2010 8:27:53 AM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: WayneS

5) Raze buildings such as depicted in the original post.

Better that they should become vegetable gardens.


17 posted on 12/03/2010 8:29:48 AM PST by rahbert
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To: SeekAndFind
Stay out of Camden,NJ

Next, you'll tell me not to eat rusty staples.

18 posted on 12/03/2010 8:30:53 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: moovova
Firing police officers is wrong, and the pols allowing this should be run out of town. Govt’s Numero Uno job is to provide protection for the citizens.

I'm guessing that you aren't familiar with the recent history of Camden, New Jersey. Camden is such a sh!t-hole, and their police force so ineffective, that their law enforcement duties were taken over by the New Jersey State Police some years ago. I believe it's so effed-up that even the state police involvement was terminated.

When I read this story I was surprised to hear: (1) that Camden even had any police officers left on its payrolls, and (2) that they only laid off half of them instead of the entire force.

19 posted on 12/03/2010 8:31:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: mountn man

Photos look like a liberal’s Utopian vision.


20 posted on 12/03/2010 8:33:00 AM PST by OB1kNOb (China is now the world's ant. America has become the world's grasshopper. Fear the coming winter.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It is terrible looks like Charlotte street in the day. The Bronx is paradise compared to this. It is terrible to do this to the people there.
21 posted on 12/03/2010 8:34:55 AM PST by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: SeekAndFind

22 posted on 12/03/2010 8:41:00 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Camden: 50% black; 43% hispanic; 7% white. The city is a plantation, a museum of Democratic-Socialist nostrums, a cesspool of corruption.

The State of New Jersey can’t fix it. The only thing that can fix it is if the people who live there finally get fed up and fix it themselves.


23 posted on 12/03/2010 8:45:51 AM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good photos of LBJs Great Society there. Don’t it make you proud what our glorious government can do in only 40 years and at a cost of only $10 Trillion. They really have changed the face of America. < /s >


24 posted on 12/03/2010 8:46:33 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a sewer.


25 posted on 12/03/2010 8:48:59 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: mountn man

Those all-white, middle class cities are always dangerous.


26 posted on 12/03/2010 8:49:40 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: dead

What are those animals? Is this a photoshop?


27 posted on 12/03/2010 8:52:40 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Oldpuppymax

Yes. Exactly.

It’s the influence of those darned Amish people...

...causing trouble EVERYWHERE they go.


28 posted on 12/03/2010 8:53:15 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: thethirddegree

They appear to be hyenas and baboons

I suspect the picture was taken somewhere in Africa and NOT in Camden, NJ, but HOW can we be sure?

;-)


29 posted on 12/03/2010 8:54:46 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: dead

“Welcome to the Jungle, we’ve got fun and games....”


30 posted on 12/03/2010 8:55:15 AM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: thethirddegree
What are those animals? Is this a photoshop?

Hyenas and baboons. Not photoshop, but not Camden, NJ., either.

31 posted on 12/03/2010 8:57:48 AM PST by Drew68
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To: SeekAndFind
That last set of four looks like a age progression over some years, starting at the upper left and proceeding clockwise.

I'm going to make a prediction. If they keep the number of police down, crime will go down.

32 posted on 12/03/2010 8:58:25 AM PST by bvw
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To: WayneS
I suspect the picture was taken somewhere in Africa and NOT in Camden, NJ, but HOW can we be sure?

Wherever it is, it actually looks nicer than Camden!

33 posted on 12/03/2010 8:59:21 AM PST by Drew68
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To: SeekAndFind
Looks like Gary, Indiana.

How did Camden snatch the Title away from Gary and Detroit?

I suppose the “most violent” award is voted on using different metrics than “per capita murders”

34 posted on 12/03/2010 9:01:54 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: rahbert

“Better that they should become vegetable gardens.”

I bet the soils are tainted with a century plus of lead and industrial fallout.


35 posted on 12/03/2010 9:03:30 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: PATRIOT1876

RE: How did Camden snatch the Title away from Gary and Detroit?

I guess the city got tired of just being #2 and it’s goal is to be #1. :)


36 posted on 12/03/2010 9:07:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: moovova
Firing police officers is wrong, and the pols allowing this should be run out of town

Why? they've obviously not been doing their job.

37 posted on 12/03/2010 9:15:49 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: SeekAndFind
I remember Camden from the mid 1960s. Just starting to get bad. There were still polish meat markets to buy great kielbasa,and mom and pop corner stores for a bottle of Frank's soda and a few comic books. Those old row homes in the photos were actually quite nice and roomy. I have a lot of great Christmas memories with family from back then. It started to get bad when my cousins had to run to school and run home again. The black kids would beat them up every chance they got. They would take their money and their shoes. All my relatives got out in the late 1960s. Now Camden looks like Somalia. Gee...I wonder what happened?
38 posted on 12/03/2010 9:25:07 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: 4yearlurker

RE: The black kids would beat them up every chance they got

Are you telling us that there used to be a big number of White people living in Camden then ?


39 posted on 12/03/2010 9:28:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

There were Irish sections,polish sections,Italian sections,etc....


40 posted on 12/03/2010 9:29:19 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: WayneS

“I suspect the picture was taken somewhere in Africa and NOT in Camden, NJ, but HOW can we be sure?”

Well, I think Camden is too cold for monkeys and hyenas.

The decay of once prosperous cities is disturbing. America looks increasingly like the third world. Most of the big industries that made this country great are gone. For instance, RCA Victor (remember them?) manufactured records, radios and televisions in Camden.


41 posted on 12/03/2010 9:32:34 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: thethirddegree
They are hyenas and baboons. As others have said, not a Photoshop, but not Camden.

I felt bad for Camden, so I thought I'd put a picture of a city that's even worse. Had to get one of Lagos Nigeria to do it though.

42 posted on 12/03/2010 9:34:01 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: TexasRepublic
Don't forget Campells Soups used to have a factory in Camden. My father and grandfather were carpenters on a expansion building project in the 1950s.
43 posted on 12/03/2010 9:35:18 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: PATRIOT1876
How did Camden snatch the Title away from Gary and Detroit?

I don't think there's anybody left to mug in those cities.

44 posted on 12/03/2010 9:35:50 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: TexasRepublic

Plam trees don’t grow too well outdoors in New Jersey either.


45 posted on 12/03/2010 9:36:40 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: WayneS

... also PALM trees...


46 posted on 12/03/2010 9:37:07 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: 4yearlurker

I am sorry for your loss.

Seriously.


47 posted on 12/03/2010 9:38:19 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: dead

*How did Camden snatch the Title away from Gary and Detroit?
I don’t think there’s anybody left to mug in those cities.*

Yep.

You can only mug the same people so many times.


48 posted on 12/03/2010 9:38:29 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: WayneS
I suspect the picture was taken somewhere in Africa and NOT in Camden, NJ, but HOW can we be sure?

The literacy rate in Africa is higher than in inner-city America, and law-abiding Africans are allowed to be armed.

Oh, and African dictators have to be natural born citizens of their respective countries.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

49 posted on 12/03/2010 9:38:58 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is there such a thing a "too vibrant" a city?

This place looks worse than Mogadishu.

50 posted on 12/03/2010 9:39:05 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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