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To: P-Marlowe
'Splain that to me Lucy.

Quite simple. You're either natural born or naturalized. Jindal was born here. He's natural born and eligible for the presidency. As would Prince William's kid from your previous post.

Just because you believe something doesn't make it true.

Born in America = Natural Born Citizen. So simple even a caveman could understand it.

Don't believe me? Well, let's see. A man with a foreign father is currently serving as the President of the United States while birthers have lost every challenge they've thrown his way.

Looks to me like the people who say Jindal's not eligible are wrong.

42 posted on 12/03/2010 11:54:14 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Looks to me like the people who say Jindal's not eligible are wrong.

No, it just looks like the courts refuse to hear the cases, because every court knows that simply being born in the USA does not make one a Natural Born Citizen, and TSWHTF.

43 posted on 12/04/2010 12:02:15 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Drew68; Kevmo; cynwoody; xzins; nowheretohide
Born in America = Natural Born Citizen. So simple even a caveman could understand it.

That's not what the Constitution says. If the Framers had intended that every person born in the United States was going to be a natural born citizen, then they would have simply made the qualification that in order to be president you would have to be born on American Soil. They didn't. The intent of the founders in using that language was that they intended that the President of the United States not have divided loyalty.

As would Prince William's kid from your previous post.

You see, you've now exposed the fallacy of your argument. You are claiming that the once and future King of England, the very nation that this country rebelled against to gain our liberty, would be eligible to President of the United States and King of England at the same time merely by nature of his birth on American Soil.

Obviously you have not studied the Constitution. You may have read it, but you have clearly shown that your understanding of it is at a third grade level. And being at a third grade level, your best argument appears to be to call those of us who question the eligibility of Jindal "Birthers". No, we do not claim that Jindal was not born in the United States. He was. We simply questions his eligibility to be President under the authority of the Constitution.

44 posted on 12/04/2010 12:05:23 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Drew68; Kevmo; cynwoody; xzins; nowheretohide; meadsjn
A man with a foreign father is currently serving as the President of the United States while birthers have lost every challenge they've thrown his way.

Actually there have been no legal challenges. The courts have consistently denied standing to any and all challengers. The case has never been heard by any court. No evidence has been taken and every suit has been dismissed at the pre-trial level.

Personally I believe that Obama is a natural born citizen because both his mother Stanley Dunham and his biological father, Frank Davis, were both Citizens at the time of his birth.

Obama is the spitting image of Frank Davis. He looks nothing like Barak Obama Sr.

45 posted on 12/04/2010 12:11:00 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Drew68
It is understandable that for you it is a personal issue.

You claim to be married to a foreign citizen, with which you have a son. If so, your son does not have sole allegiance to the USA.

If some USA female married Kim Jung Il, or his son, or Achmedinejad, or Hugo Chavez, or any lesser enemy of the USA, their son or daughter would not be eligible to become the President of the United States.

This was the intent of the founders and framers of the US Constitution; to prevent such usurpations, as had happened several times in the history of European nations.

46 posted on 12/04/2010 12:13:16 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Drew68; P-Marlowe
...Born in America = Natural Born Citizen. So simple even a caveman could understand it....

Haven't been reading either the Constitution or Vattel's Law of Nations recently eh?
97 posted on 12/04/2010 9:43:58 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Drew68
Not just “Born in America = Natural Born Citizen”, but “Born a Citizen of America = A Natural Born Citizen of America”.

By your definition the child of US servicemen and women born overseas would not be natural born, and they have never needed naturalization.

I find it increasingly unlikely that any U.S. finding of law will ever say a U.S. citizen at birth is anything other than a “natural born citizen” of the USA.

And yes, another Jindal thread polluted with birther nonsense.

150 posted on 12/06/2010 2:42:04 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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