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Air force investigating flyover at football game
Kfor.com ^ | 12/4/2010 | Kfor.com

Posted on 12/04/2010 5:52:22 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Four pilots at Vance Air Force Base in Enid are under investigation to determine if they flew too low over Kennick Stadium in Iowa before the Hawkeyes played Ohio State back in November.

"The gentlemen involved are instructor pilots and part of this was a training mission," said 1st Lt. Katherine Roling.

Although the fly over was authorized, pilots with the Air Force are required to fly at least 1,000 feet above congested areas such as a sports stadium.

Nearly two weeks after the flyover, the Air Force is still trying to determine exactly how low the pilots flew.

Since the game, several cell phone videos of the flyover have been posted on the internet and debated.

"Those guys are good and they know what they are doing or they wouldn't be doing what they are doing," said Pilot Lonnie Gillespie who flew in the Korean and Vietnam Wars

(Excerpt) Read more at kfor.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: aerospace; collegefootball; flyover; football; hawkeyes; iowa; kennickstadium; ohiostate; probe; t38; usaf; vanceafb
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To: SkyPilot
I went to an airshow many moons ago and had the amazing thrill of seeing Bob Hoover do a slow roll of an Aero Commander, with one engine feathered, along the runway at about 300 feet altitude.

Never knew those birds were certified as aerobatic until then.

81 posted on 12/05/2010 2:56:39 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: SkyPilot
I went to an airshow many moons ago and had the amazing thrill of seeing Bob Hoover do a slow roll of an Aero Commander, with one engine feathered, along the runway at about 300 feet altitude.

Never knew those birds were certified as aerobatic until then.

82 posted on 12/05/2010 2:58:06 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: centurion316

My older brother had similar stories, flying OH-58s over (then) West Germany.

One day he was “buzzed” by a couple of Luftwaffe Phantoms. Scared the kaka out of him! ;)


83 posted on 12/05/2010 3:40:37 AM PST by Levante
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To: Dust in the Wind

I had 3 A-10 Thunderbolts fly over the me on the highway a few years back. They were definately under 1000 feet and it was an awesome sight!


84 posted on 12/05/2010 4:08:24 AM PST by BOBWADE
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To: fso301

That had to have hurt some ears and some lungs.


85 posted on 12/05/2010 4:29:43 AM PST by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: BOBWADE
I had 3 A-10 Thunderbolts fly over the me on the highway a few years back

I have a place on the White Oak River near Swansboro, NC. It is common when I am there. The "Hogs" come over at treetop level, and scream as they go past in training. Cherry Point and New River are separated by me... But, you don't hear them coming!


86 posted on 12/05/2010 4:39:31 AM PST by WVKayaker (Faith makes the discords of the present become the harmonies of the future - Robert Collyer)
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To: mortal19440
“AGL, MSL or Absolute 1000 feet. These guys did a great flyover at whatever 1000 foot number they needed. Get over it you sandcrab whiners.”

It doesn't matter if they were at 10,000 AGL. This is a serious charge, and the University of Iowa should permanently shut down their entire sports program as a result.

87 posted on 12/05/2010 5:42:27 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: SkyPilot

Used to love wathing them take off @ Sheppard AFB in the early morning hours.


88 posted on 12/05/2010 5:47:20 AM PST by chemicalman (The Obama's: Proud members of the Vacation-A-Month Club.)
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To: SkyPilot

Airshows are allowed to obtain an FAA waiver to some of the FAR’s (Federal Air Regulations)


89 posted on 12/05/2010 6:23:31 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Cicero

Ramstein AB, Germany, 1988. But in that incident the Italians were overflying the crowd. At US airshows aircraft don’t overfly the crowd at less than 1000 ft above the ground.


90 posted on 12/05/2010 6:25:02 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

The F16 pilots from the VT ANG do flyovers for sporting events in New England including opening day at Fenway in 2008. See if you can tell which pilot got in trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Th-oDr1PQ&feature=fvw


91 posted on 12/05/2010 6:34:39 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLPC-4Mj3N8&feature=related

Now THAT was low. That second F-18 was real close to causing a disaster.


92 posted on 12/05/2010 6:42:04 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Low passes are the sights/sounds of.........FREEDOM.


93 posted on 12/05/2010 7:31:39 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: 50mm

I was at the Columbine high school memorial service. During the service we had a flyover in the missing man formation.
The plane that came around behind and over the crowd was quite low and screaming. Something I will never forget (and I doubt there was a pair of clean shorts in the entire crowd).

The planes are amazing machines when they fly over low and fast! (Of course amazing any time, just we ground limited people dont get to see them in action often enough). I think 1000 ft is a stupid rule. If the plane is going to crash at an inopportune time, is there really a difference between 900 and 1100 feet?


94 posted on 12/05/2010 7:38:30 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Have always enjoyed this F-86 take off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3uRymK7nI


95 posted on 12/05/2010 7:44:33 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: Always Independent
"The T-38C model with upgraded cockpit is still the USAF the trainer in use. they have about 400 still in service."

400? Wow. I had no idea. Another poster mentioned that some are even in private ownership. I wonder if they have an ample supply of spares through after-market manufacturers or old stock, or if they have to cannibalize.

96 posted on 12/05/2010 8:15:38 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Roccus

Saw the traffic at Love Field in Dallas come to a screeching halt one day when a B-17 came in. As the pilot hit the brakes, he said if you turn to the left, you will see one of the defenders of our freedom.

Thankfully I had a window seat on the left side. :)


97 posted on 12/05/2010 8:33:35 AM PST by SouthTexas (WE are the Wave)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Back in the 80’s a pair of Nat.Guard F-4’s blew threw a tight mt. valley while I was standing on top a silo elevator about 200’ above the river. They were parallel to me as they screamed past about 500’ away.

A very impressive pant cleaning event.


98 posted on 12/05/2010 8:36:29 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: vietvet67
At Jimmy Stewart's 75th birthday celebration, then-President Reagan called in, and the call was placed over a PA system for the crowd to hear.

Reagan asserted his privilege as CinC to order Retired BG Stewart to look to his west, at which time a flight of A7s came roaring over the horizon...at what had to be substantially less than 1000 feet.

And indeed, it was the Sound of Freedom.

99 posted on 12/05/2010 8:39:38 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I’ve seen that...hard to believe, my heart was beating faster just watching that one!


100 posted on 12/05/2010 8:44:42 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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