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What happens if Chicago pension funds run out of money?
Tribune ^ | November 16, 2010 | Jason Grotto

Posted on 12/05/2010 4:08:04 PM PST by george76

Illinois Constitution raises questions about who's on the hook if they become insolvent.

With some city pension funding levels dropping below 40 percent, a question arises that seemed unthinkable just a decade ago: If a pension fund runs out of money, who pays for the retirement security promised to city workers?

The answer is complicated by changes to the Illinois Constitution in 1970 that made retirement benefits for public employees a contractual guarantee that could not be diminished.

Union leaders say pension benefits are guaranteed not only for retired workers but for those still working, and that if a fund went under, the city would be required to find a way to make the fund whole — by levying more taxes, borrowing, cutting services or all of the above.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: pensionbenefits; pensionfunds; pensions
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To: george76

Just steal private retirement savings.


21 posted on 12/05/2010 4:52:01 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: george76

I’ll tell you who they are going to TRY to put on the hook for it... I’m seriously contemplating — if the Fed’s do start bailing out states like California, New York, Illinois, and Cities like Chicago — just refusing to pay income taxes any longer. Tax revolt. Of course, my wife would probably leave me. I would probably go to prison, if the IRS didn’t find a way to raid my house and get rid of me outright, so they could just confiscate all my stuff....

Oh, did I type that out loud? How long before the “Tea Parties” actually DO start throwing LITERAL tea in the bay, or REFUSING to pay the fees and taxes, or buy the stupid government “stamps?” When will the insults and injuries be ENOUGH!?!


22 posted on 12/05/2010 5:06:37 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: The Comedian
I start to laugh uncontrollably as I salute the 2nd law of thermo-dynamics?

You're a funny guy!

23 posted on 12/05/2010 5:07:00 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: eyeamok

yes but when they were responsible for pensions they let the mob in!


24 posted on 12/05/2010 5:14:29 PM PST by Reily
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To: mia
"Is anyone asking where the money has gone? "

My cousin is/was President of an Illinois teachers union. The state raided/spent it.

Seems Illinois/Chicago don't even give out IOUs. They just pay some bills, of their choosing, as revenue allows.

Yes, he blames Blotto and the crook legislators.

Oddly, he does not blame his pension fund managers. Evidently, they have no authority over what the legislature does with the funds. Taxes come in, the legislature doesn't put it in the pension funds.

yitbos

25 posted on 12/05/2010 5:29:58 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Are instances like this ever discussed with the citizens of that state? Like, do the people in the state have a forum to discuss this abuse of power? This is robbery and/or misappropriation of funds. Are people so stupid that they sit back and allow this to happen? Crimeny. . .


26 posted on 12/05/2010 5:42:12 PM PST by mia
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To: The Comedian

All Chicago pension money can be paid in Zimbabwe dollars.


27 posted on 12/05/2010 5:43:21 PM PST by reg45
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To: The Comedian
I start to laugh uncontrollably as I salute the 2nd law of thermo-dynamics?

Before or after the celebratory stogie?


28 posted on 12/05/2010 6:05:42 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Oh, Bother", said Pooh... as he chambered another round.)
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To: george76

Fat Tony kills Mayor Quimby?


29 posted on 12/05/2010 6:05:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Charles Martel
;-)

I *am* society's only protection...

And so are you.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

30 posted on 12/05/2010 6:15:02 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: george76

Thursday’s Glen Beck show covered this. California, Illinois, New Jersey, and New York are all in this situation, and will all be bailed out so long as they end up insolvent while King Hussein is in power.

...which will mean further devaluation of the dollar.


31 posted on 12/05/2010 6:20:29 PM PST by Yet_Again
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To: C210N

Your analysis may be true for federal obligations, but certainly not for those of the states or local governments.


32 posted on 12/05/2010 6:51:47 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: Yet_Again

How will BHO bail them out?


33 posted on 12/05/2010 6:53:10 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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