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WikiLeaks: China's Politburo a cabal of business empires
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| 12/06/10
| Peter Foster
Posted on 12/07/2010 6:44:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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When vested interests trump anything else, it would lead to a disaster eventually. We see it in the still-unfolding current financial crisis.
To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...
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posted on
12/07/2010 6:46:00 AM PST
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
They should change the name to Congress.
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posted on
12/07/2010 6:50:43 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: TigerLikesRooster
Congress’s top leadership have carved up the USA’s economic ‘pie,’” the US embassy contact said, “creating an ossified system in which ‘vested interests’ drove decision-making and impeded reform as leaders maneuvered to ensure that those interests were not threatened.” The US embassy contact also asserted there were no “reformers” within the top Communist Party leadership, only competing factions that sought to protect their business empires from attack by in-coming leaderships.
Fixed it!
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posted on
12/07/2010 6:52:03 AM PST
by
resistance
(abandon all hope and rational thought, become a democrat)
To: TigerLikesRooster
This is supposed to be surprising?
I think China has always been run this way, with occasional interregnums.
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posted on
12/07/2010 6:54:11 AM PST
by
Little Ray
(The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
To: Little Ray
There are people who think, “This time it is different.”
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posted on
12/07/2010 6:57:01 AM PST
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: resistance
” Congresss top leadership have carved up the USAs economic pie, the US embassy contact said, creating an ossified system in which vested interests drove decision-making and impeded reform as leaders maneuvered to ensure that those interests were not threatened. The US embassy contact also asserted there were no reformers within the top Communist Party leadership, only competing factions that sought to protect their business empires from attack by in-coming leaderships. “
there were no reformers within the top Republican-Democrat (Republicrat) Party Establishment, only competing factions that sought to protect their business empires from attack by in-coming leaderships.
Fixed it again.....
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posted on
12/07/2010 6:58:56 AM PST
by
Uncle Ike
(Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
To: TigerLikesRooster
I keep liking the unvarnished truths finally spoken through Wikileaks.
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:01:41 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
To: Uncle Ike
LOL. Actually, RINO’s try to turn Sarah into one of shopkeepers, if I can borrow Chicom parlance. So far she is not ‘cooperating.’
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:06:39 AM PST
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
I’m guess I’m one of ‘em.
The Chinese have endured as a nation and people under such a system for thousands of years. It might be oppressive, but, in the long run, it seems to work.
More and more I see the US as a falling Roman Empire: Bankrupt, with an overstretched military, invaded by barbarians, citizens anesthetized by bread and circuses (or “American Idol” and “Dancing with the Stars”), etc. We all know how that ends, but I keep hoping...
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:07:03 AM PST
by
Little Ray
(The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
To: Little Ray
It might be oppressive Its maintenance cost is loss of lives anywhere from 30% to 70% of Chinese population during inter-dynasty period.
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:12:13 AM PST
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
The word which describes China's current situation is "oligarchy", where an entrenched elite runs the country for its own benefit. This increasingly describes the US as well, but that's another story.
The Chinese "princelings" are effectively the new nobility of China, each guarding his own feudal turf.
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:12:52 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Ba’al
—The Woo?
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:17:45 AM PST
by
LomanBill
(Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Its maintenance cost is loss of lives anywhere from 30% to 70% of Chinese population during inter-dynasty period. I seem to recall Chinese politics during that period were dominated by "Warlordism;" and from that perspective the current Communist era begins to look like one of the shorter-lived dynastic systems that achieved "one China" status for a while.
One wonders when these factions will finally revert to classic Chinese form and go to war with each other. I have to think it won't be all that long....
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:23:18 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: TigerLikesRooster
Okay, so I understated things a bit...
I can’t imagine how a nation survives losing 70% of its population.
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:26:11 AM PST
by
Little Ray
(The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
To: PapaBear3625
Part of my view of China is shaped by a historian who called the establishment of Communism in China the “Peasant Dynasty.”
From a SF/Future History point of view, I see an empire ruled by an emperor called a Chairman and served by Ministers drawn from a nobility called the Commissioners.
Or something along that line, anyway.
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:32:01 AM PST
by
Little Ray
(The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
To: Little Ray
Look at it from the point of view of the 30% who remain living. Life goes on. In fact, I can imagine lots of places in the US that would be a lot more pleasant with 70% less population. DC is one. LA and NY are others.
To: TigerLikesRooster
The entire article is a wonderful discourse on how economies can go wrong. The irony that we are looking at ourselves in a mirror, as other posters have pointed out, should not be lost on anyone.
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:37:42 AM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: Little Ray
The worst of such episodes is the population dropping from 60 million(end of Later Han Era) to 8 million(somewhere near the end of Three Kingdom Period.) Jin Dynasty unified China for a short period, before it was destroyed by civil war(Eight Princes Rebellion.)
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posted on
12/07/2010 7:44:56 AM PST
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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