The Cruel Oppressor™ had a lot of willing help. Meet the "Torch of the North".
Posted on 12/07/2010 11:31:03 AM PST by presidio9
The Cruel Oppressor™ had a lot of willing help. Meet the "Torch of the North".
That's because the Constitution didn't create the Union, it had already been created - as an explicitly perpetual one.
Every State in the Union had surrendered its right to unilaterally secede. Texas was unique only in that it received permission to secede in advance.
All of that is irrelevant, though. The South would have been allowed to secede peaceably, if it had chosen that path. Instead, it chose war.
One comment I read once that I thought made sense was that say what you will of whether Lincoln was justified in making war on the South, the real issue is that he felt he had to make war. In other words, his real failure was in not ending slavery with diplomacy. The author of the article I read mentioned that several other contemporary countries, including Britain, our Mother country, had stopped slavery without going to war over it.
What diplomacy was left available to him when several states were already in open rebellion?
You'd like that. I'm sure you would volunteer to perform the ghoulish act.
I don't know.
But by the way; anyone who uses a Apple computer is probably a leftist and Obama supporter.
Windows based systems are vastly superior and easier to use.
Abortion is the slavery of the 21st century and I am an abolitionist.
After all of the fighting and dying and "reconstructing", the US Constitution is STILL silent on the subject. The Yankees couldn't even get that right. EVERYONE then and now knows that an amendment like that would be DOA, well except you.
Wait until we all get to see who is necessary for this time.
Who we will get may likely be vastly less charitable.
Also, Japan did nothing to deserve Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I think we covered everything. Let the bodies fly!
central_vag says, “what are you griping about? Look, some of them got window seats.”
Hey! Did you hear? With the Libs getting booted in November, Microsoft just acquired Apple!
Hmm... just a tiny bit more room each than I had on my last Carnival cruise.
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The Cruel Oppressor™ had a lot of willing help. Meet the "Torch of the North". |
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Apostle Claver tells the world how the real party of racism is the Democrats
There was a tyrannical president in office during the Civil War but he was based in Richmond.
On the contrary, slavery was one of the reasons we found ourselves fighting a second war of secession with our own mother country in 1812. Our history books tell us that James Madison was annoyed that the Brits were seizing our vessels and impressing our sailors into His Majesty's Navy, right? Ever hear of the Slave Trade Act 1807?
Try again. Davis could have been tried for treason, perhaps should have been tried for treason, but the same Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who would later rule that secession as practiced by the Southern states was unconstitutional also said that trying Davis for his crimes after the ratification of the 14th Amendment would have violated his 5th Amendment protections.
So much for your "they couldn't try him without proving secession was legal" nonsense.
The War of Northern Aggression!
That said, has anyone looked into Executive Order 11, or been to the Lone Jack, MO, Civil War Museum? I've learned a great deal, to include a great deal of misery created from both North and South in the Kansas City area. There was what appears to be essentially a genocide executed by Lincoln in that area. Yes, I'm going to throw the G-word. There was a lot of ugly going on - a lot of good folks stuck in the middle, and a lot of soldiers feeling entitled to "take" whatever they wanted from even families and farmers on their own side who were following orders.
So, until I can further study, I'm reserving judgment.
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