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Shrum: Tax Cuts & Unemployment Benefits Will Create 7 Million Jobs
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Posted on 12/08/2010 11:44:09 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Democratic strategist Bob Shrum defends President Obama compromising on extending the Bush-era tax cuts.

Shrum calls the bill a "second stimulus."

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1 posted on 12/08/2010 11:44:15 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I can see tax cuts creating jobs...for small and corporate businesses...but unemployment benefits? I’m a bit confused on that one.


2 posted on 12/08/2010 11:48:14 AM PST by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Why is anyone quoting anything that Schrum has to say (not a dig at you, CC27, just that the media quotes him...)?
He is a failure at any thing he has done politically...a total boob in politics...
Wait, then let the dims listen to him....
Never mind....


3 posted on 12/08/2010 11:50:32 AM PST by matginzac
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To: xuberalles

Schrum is a boob.

How many campaigns has he managed to lose ?

5 -6 -7 ?


4 posted on 12/08/2010 11:50:41 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Really? Is that your WAG?

The rates will stay the same as they have been for years.

We are currently at near 10% unemployment.

What changed that will have an effect on unemployment?

You willing to hang your hat on that?


5 posted on 12/08/2010 11:52:34 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If Bob “0-8” Shrum says it, we can bank on it... oh, wait...


6 posted on 12/08/2010 11:55:45 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: xuberalles

unemployed people spend money they wouldn’t have had otherwise, increasing demand for products and services.


7 posted on 12/08/2010 11:55:58 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
NONSENSE!!! Extending benefits will not create NEW jobs. It is not NEW spending, it simply extends payments that would otherwise drop off and conceivably cause jobs to be LOST. If anything, the Rats could tout this as a way to "save" jobs but there is NO WAY that extending benefits will CREATE one more job than already exists.

Will not one newsie call them on this???

8 posted on 12/08/2010 11:58:06 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

don’t touch that number without rubber gloves...... he pulled it right out of his butt


9 posted on 12/08/2010 11:59:16 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This is not a tax cut, the rates stay the same.

Massive deficit spending to pay people not to work does not create jobs.


10 posted on 12/08/2010 12:01:12 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Schrum seems to be kind of a loon.


11 posted on 12/08/2010 12:01:12 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: xuberalles
There will be no change because they did not give anyone any tax cut... they are keeping the tax code in place that we have been using for a decade... now if they had actually cut taxes... that would spur growth... all that they did was to maintain the status quo and then totally negated any comfort that action may have had, by raising the debt and the deficit through more welfare... and that will kill jobs and drive us into insolvency. It is so simple... why don't more FReepers “get it”?

LLS

12 posted on 12/08/2010 12:01:35 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: ChurtleDawg
"unemployed people spend money they wouldn’t have had otherwise, increasing demand for products and services."

But would almost certainly be spending it on the same things they spend it on already. Primarily non-discretionary goods. (food, rent, gas). This creates no increase in demand, it merely sustains the current demand. Thus, while it may help unemployment from rising, I don't see it helping unemployment fall. Same with the tax "cuts". These "cuts" merely maintain the status quo. So if the current rate isn't creating additional jobs how would keeping it in place magically start doing so. Especially if it's only guaranteed for two years. I concede that had we let them go up it would have certainly made things worse but just keeing it as it is doesn't seem likely to suddenly make things a whole lot better. A least that's how it looks to this admitted non economist.

13 posted on 12/08/2010 12:04:05 PM PST by circlecity
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To: ChurtleDawg

It has not worked to date and has never worked in the history of this country. All that it does is to create debt and the interest that debt accrues... and WE get to pay it all off... or default... which is where America is going... at 500MPH!

LLS


14 posted on 12/08/2010 12:04:05 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Democratic strategist Bob Shrum defends President Obama compromising on extending the Bush-era tax cuts.

Shrum calls the bill a "second stimulus."

Shrummie, ol' buddy, ol' pal, it's NOT a "tax cut". It changes nothing from the status quo -- which is almost 10% unemployment.

Now, if you want to argue that extension of the current rates saved 7 million jobs that would've been lost had no action been taken, you might have a point.

Some "stimulus"...

15 posted on 12/08/2010 12:14:40 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Opened my SS statement for 2011 today, it is $214.32 LESS than I received in 2010...so all us old geezers are going to be doing a lot less buying in 2011.


16 posted on 12/08/2010 12:28:59 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I was not offering an opinion on the merits of that kind of government spending as stimulus. I was explaining the logic behind it.


17 posted on 12/08/2010 12:32:02 PM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Unemployment benefits create job? Shrum are you channeling Keiff Offalman or Nasty Peelousy?


18 posted on 12/08/2010 12:40:54 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This chapter of IdiotNomics goes right up there with “doing jobs Americans won’t do” and “Free Trade with Communist China creates jobs in the USA” as the most idiot comments about the economy

More IdiotNomics from our government


19 posted on 12/08/2010 12:51:54 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Communist Chinese workers aren't paying for those welfare and unemployment benefits)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

1. There are no tax cuts
2. Unemployment checks have never created a single job.


20 posted on 12/08/2010 12:54:31 PM PST by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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