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Why Mike Pence will run in 2012
Wash Post ^ | 12/9/10 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 12/09/2010 3:10:57 PM PST by pissant

George Will today aptly details why Mike Pence, a stalwart on fiscal issues and an articulate proponent of conservative social values, would be an attractive 2012 presidential candidate. I'll go a step further than George and predict that Pence will announce early next year.

A close friend and confidante of Pence's has been telling me for several weeks that Pence is "serious." This friend makes the case that Pence is a solid conservative on the range of issues conservatives care about and is the only candidate who can "seamlessly meld" the sometimes adversarial Tea Party and establishment wings of the GOP "without too much friction." He also points to Pence's demeanor, citing a favorite phrase of the congressman's: "Just because I'm a conservative doesn't mean I have to be a bad mood about it."

Even more telling, Gary Bauer, the influential social conservative leader who heads the group American Values and is on the boards of Christians United for Israel and the Emergency Committee for Israel, gave me his take this morning: "There is no doubt that Rep. Pence has solid support among values voters. They like his unapologetic and confident defense of the Judeo- Christian world view." But Bauer says Pence's appeal goes beyond social conservatives, vouching for Pence's "Reagan-like ability to bring economic, national security and social conservatives together in a winning coalition."

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


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Excellent.
1 posted on 12/09/2010 3:11:05 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

So he’s competing with John Bolton to be Sarah Palin’s running mate? May the best man win, as they say!


2 posted on 12/09/2010 3:14:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: pissant

Good to see this. I like Pence a lot.


3 posted on 12/09/2010 3:17:14 PM PST by Grunthor (Silence is golden, Duct Tape is silver.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would vote for Pence over Palin for President....and I have supported her BEFORE McCain picked her


4 posted on 12/09/2010 3:19:48 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: pissant

As a Palin supporter, I do like Pence, but I have to really wonder, is this guy another Alan Keyes to siphon votes away from SP so Mitt cann get through? That’s what I really worry about here, that Pence is being played.


5 posted on 12/09/2010 3:19:48 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pence is really weak on the border.


6 posted on 12/09/2010 3:19:48 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: pissant
the only candidate who can "seamlessly meld" the sometimes adversarial Tea Party and establishment wings of the GOP "without too much friction."

Thats a black mark. I want friction. I want adversarial.

Aside from that, Pence is a good man. I'd vote for him.

7 posted on 12/09/2010 3:21:05 PM PST by marron
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To: pissant

Good man, but I think he needs more grooming. A stint as governor would help. Like Duncan Hunter, he is an excellent guy who needs more name recognition. I wouldn’t want to see him spoil his future chances.


8 posted on 12/09/2010 3:22:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: pissant

Also, look at who is doing the recommending here. George Will and Jennifer Rubin?


9 posted on 12/09/2010 3:23:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: ckilmer

Pence is really weak on the border.

Bet his tune will be a lot tougher when he jumps in. That said, he is a very acceptable candidate. I Prefer Palin and Demint. But I could take Pence without heart burn.
My fear is that Romney will get it when the conservatives get done beating each other up.


10 posted on 12/09/2010 3:24:05 PM PST by Robbin (If Sarah isn’t welcome, I’m not welcome, it’s just that simple…)
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To: blueyon

Pence is a good guy. I would vote for him.


11 posted on 12/09/2010 3:24:17 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: ckilmer

“Pence is really weak on the border.”

The only one who is really strong on the border is Duncan Hunter but I doubt he’d run again. Then again who knows? Gov Jan Brewer for president?


12 posted on 12/09/2010 3:26:05 PM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka!)
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To: pissant

Pence/Bachmann - this is the ticket.


13 posted on 12/09/2010 3:27:17 PM PST by newfrpr04
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To: Cicero

Flashback: Obama Pulls Up a Chair at George Will’s House

By Michael D. Shear

Where does one dine a week before becoming the leader of the free world?

At the Chevy Chase, Md., house of conservative columnist George Will.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/01/obama-pulls-up-a-chair-at-geor.html


14 posted on 12/09/2010 3:29:17 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: newfrpr04

Damn! Let’s hope we get that kind of VP selection.


15 posted on 12/09/2010 3:30:07 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ckilmer; pissant
Pence is really weak on the border.

That pales in comparison to his ability to split conservative votes so Romney can win with a plurality.

16 posted on 12/09/2010 3:35:52 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: ari-freedom

DeMint is also strong on illegal immigration.


17 posted on 12/09/2010 3:36:06 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Pence is much more articulate than Palin. Now, if he can come up with the great ideas....he would be VERY electable.


18 posted on 12/09/2010 3:36:06 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Robbin

Pence is stronger on immigration than anyone talking about running except DeMint.


19 posted on 12/09/2010 3:37:01 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Is he willing to take Obama head on? That is the million dollar question. Having the right stance on the issues is meaningless if he wilts from criticism.


20 posted on 12/09/2010 3:38:34 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: pissant

DeMint also has better name recognition and a reputation for being a fighter. He’s really the one to watch.


21 posted on 12/09/2010 3:40:07 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: upsdriver

Wilts? He was the ONLY one in GOP House leadership that did not wilt under the pressure to support the crap sammich, called TARP.


22 posted on 12/09/2010 3:40:56 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ari-freedom

DeMint is a (slight) cut above.


23 posted on 12/09/2010 3:42:04 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Grunthor

I like Mike Pence and he would be a good solid leader.


24 posted on 12/09/2010 3:44:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: pissant
if pence is in, he's got my vote. if he chooses rubio as a running mate, i’ll even donate my hard earned money
25 posted on 12/09/2010 3:47:10 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: pissant

I’m talking about going up against a black president. So far, the Washington insiders have been pretty timid in that respect.


26 posted on 12/09/2010 3:49:07 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: pissant
But Bauer says Pence's appeal goes beyond social conservatives, vouching for Pence's "Reagan-like ability to bring economic, national security and social conservatives together in a winning coalition."


That is the key.
27 posted on 12/09/2010 3:59:13 PM PST by rob777
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To: pissant

My biggest worry about Pence is that he is relatively inexperienced, and would only be the second sitting House member, after Garfield, to be elected President. My opinion is no congresscritters.


28 posted on 12/09/2010 4:00:28 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: jimbo123; Cicero; 2ndDivisionVet
Mike Pence would be a welcome entry into the race, but I suspect he would fall the way of congressman for POTUS.

Pence and Eric Cantor voted FOR Puerto Rico Statehood; backdoor amnesty. Not good.

29 posted on 12/09/2010 4:01:23 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: pissant

Mike Pence would do much better as a candidate and then winner for ‘12 Indiana Governor, before being part of any future Presidential ticket. I like Mike Pence a lot, but history isn’t that kind to ANYBODY running for POTUS from the House of Representatives! Mike Pence would end up in the same situation that Duncan Hunter, Sr. found himself, during the race for ‘08 POTUS. ‘12 isn’t the time for Mike Pence to be part of any Presidential ticket, and I’m sorry that I have to say so. In the future, A “Governor Mike Pence” running for POTUS, would do much better.


30 posted on 12/09/2010 4:01:49 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: pissant

I like his politics but prefer governors for their executive experience. Could make a great Palin VP, however.


31 posted on 12/09/2010 4:03:38 PM PST by Little Pharma
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To: blueyon

How is Pence on the border and deporting illegals?


32 posted on 12/09/2010 4:06:06 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Pence...the latest meme


33 posted on 12/09/2010 4:15:32 PM PST by ak267
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To: pissant
He also points to Pence's demeanor, citing a favorite phrase of the congressman's: "Just because I'm a conservative doesn't mean I have to be a bad mood about it."

Not sure what the Congressman's point is in this statement.

Does that mean other Conservatives are in a bad mood about being Conservatives? Or because they are Conservatives?

Sounds like he's playing into the leftist media's meme about Conservatives being mean and bad tempered, yadda, yadda, yadda.

34 posted on 12/09/2010 4:18:56 PM PST by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: ckilmer

Pence is really weak on the border


Don’t count me as a Pence supporter, then. If you cannot seal the border and deport all the Illegal Aliens....how in the world can I trust you on handling Islamic Terrorism?


35 posted on 12/09/2010 4:22:26 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: upsdriver

Pence = Milk Toast


36 posted on 12/09/2010 4:33:47 PM PST by sheana
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To: pissant

He’s welcome to run against Sarah if she announces. May the best woman win...


37 posted on 12/09/2010 4:41:42 PM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: achilles2000

“PENCE: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS MUST LEAVE THE COUNTRY AND APPLY OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES FOR THE LEGAL RIGHT TO BE HERE”
http://mikepence.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=500&Itemid=65

Enough said! Run Pence Run, you have my vote


38 posted on 12/09/2010 4:43:34 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: sheana

That’s just it. Personally, I don’t care to see anyone entrenched in the DC culture run for president. They are all tainted.


39 posted on 12/09/2010 4:44:32 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: ckilmer; pissant
Pence is really weak on the border.

How is exactly is Pence "really weak" on the border?

http://www.ontheissues.org/in/Mike_Pence_Immigration.htm

40 posted on 12/09/2010 4:44:37 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM
How is exactly is Pence "really weak" on the border?

Wasn't he at one time for a form of amnesty (before changing his mind)?


41 posted on 12/09/2010 5:02:53 PM PST by Kegger
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To: pissant

I like what he says and I like how he says it but

But he has no executive experience. As we all know from our current experience, being confident in 20/20 hindsight is easy.


42 posted on 12/09/2010 5:20:38 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: upsdriver

Whoever the GOP nominee is should get Rush as the VP or official spokesman.


43 posted on 12/09/2010 5:21:25 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Kegger
Wasn't he at one time for a form of amnesty (before changing his mind)?

No.

However, Palin does support a form a amnesty, as does Huckabee.

44 posted on 12/09/2010 5:22:03 PM PST by FTJM
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To: pissant
Well-known Palin-hater George Will speaks out...


PalinWhite


45 posted on 12/09/2010 5:23:55 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: FTJM

His big blackmark on “the borders” was his ill-conceived Pence-Hutchison ‘compromise’ bill that tried to thread the needle between McCain-Kennedy and Hunter’s “Enforcement only” bill. It was a flop and fortunately, did not see the light of day. But other than that, he’s been a border hawk.


46 posted on 12/09/2010 5:37:20 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: FrankR

That’s pretty good.


47 posted on 12/09/2010 5:42:45 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Both bills required border security but Pence's original bill in the House was stricter on the length of stay for work permits, 6 years, and assuming that immigration quotas stayed the same, would have resulted in a phased deportation over a period of years. It required all illegals to leave the country and apply.

The compromise bill required all illegals to go home but allowed for more time for 2 year renewable work visas, up to 12 years, and ultimately obtain an employer sponsored visa similar to current ones.

The compromise bill was lighter but Pence has been consistent that illegals must return home.

48 posted on 12/09/2010 6:07:57 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

Hunter’s bill had no provisions for allowing anyone to return. That’s my man. But it is very tough to paint Pence as weak on borders. He followed Hunter’s lead on illegal immigration almost to a tee throughout his career. And it don’t get much better than that.


49 posted on 12/09/2010 6:13:55 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Yeah, there is no way in hell anyone could say that Pence is weak on borders. It’s just more deflection from the cultists.


50 posted on 12/09/2010 6:18:28 PM PST by FTJM
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