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Stockholm suicide bomber trained for jihad for 4 years
longwarjournal.org ^ | December 13, 2010 | Bill Roggio

Posted on 12/13/2010 10:28:02 PM PST by MamaDearest

While this seemed painfully obvious the day of the attack, it now appears certain that Taimour Abdulwahab, the Stockholm man who attempted to detonate the car bomb and then a vest in the city, died from that most horrible affliction known to suicide bombers: premature detonation. And via The New York Times, we learn that he had been preparing to carry out mass murder in Stockholm for four years:

Then, with the sound of the turn of a page, he addressed his wife and children. The man confessed that trips he had made to the Middle East were not for business, but for "jihad."

"I love you all. Please forgive me if I lied to you. It wasn't very easy to live the last four years with the secret of being mujahid," he said, using an Arabic word for holy warrior, "or, as you call it, terrorist." After a pause, he continued. "Please do know one thing," he said. "You and the children are the best of what happened to me in this life."

The final words were directed at "all hidden mujahideen in Europe and especially in Sweden." Now, the speaker said, is "the time to strike even if you only have a knife to strike with, and I do know that you have more than that."

Abdulwahab's final statement indicates he carried out the attack for the Islamic State of Iraq, al Qaeda's front. "The Islamic State of Iraq has kept its promise," according to statements released on several jihadist forums. The Telegraph informs us that Abdulwahab was kicked out of a mosque in Luton three years ago for trying to recruit others to wage jihad against the West:

Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly, 28, tried to recruit other Muslims to share his fanatical views when he was given a chance to preach at the Luton Islamic Centre.

Sources there said he then turned his attention to trying to recruit students by giving sermons at the Islamic Society of the University of Bedfordshire, of which he was a graduate….

Qadeer Baksh, chairman of the Luton Islamic Centre, also known as the Al Ghurabaa mosque, said the bomber believed Western governments had no right to involve themselves in Iraq or Afghanistan and urged others to "take matters into their own hands" because traditional mosques were not proactive enough.

Mr Baksh said: "He arrived at the mosque at the start of Ramadan [the Muslim holy month of fasting] in 2007.

"We hadn't seen him before but he was very nice, a gentle, bubbly character. People liked him and he was very helpful to them.

"He was like that for a couple of weeks and he was given the opportunity to preach.

"Some of the members brought it to my attention that his views were extreme so I challenged him.

"It was all about Iraq and Afghanistan. He was saying that Western governments had no right to be there and how too many Muslims remained silent.

"He said we should be more proactive and take matters into our own hands but he never directly advocated violence.

"He said the leaders of Muslim nations had to take more action and said scholars here were working for the government.

"It was quite serious because some of the worshippers were starting to really listen to him.

"I talked to him and went through his arguments and countered all of them theologically and he accepted it. I thought that was the end of it but he carried on.

"So one day, before the end of Ramadan, when the mosque was full I directly challenged all his misinterpretations of Islam.

"He just stood up and stormed out. We never saw him again - but I heard he'd gone to the Islamic Society at the university and continued to preach his extremist views.

Yet somehow Abdulwahab wasn't flagged as a threat back in 2007, and was able to leave the United Kingdom and travel to the Middle East, then Sweden? Or would identifying as a threat a Muslim who was preaching jihad in mosques brand any European intelligence agency or police association that did so "a Stasi organization"?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jihad; stockholm; suicidebomber

1 posted on 12/13/2010 10:28:05 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

Getting back to the TSA policies, if we found more data out about what is going on, because so far, at least from this story, it appears they are ineffective. One year later the TSA comes up with a plan to simply do what would prevent an exact re-run of the previous year, however, given that guys such as this one planned 4 years in advance, I have had my assumptions, and I admit my assumptions that it could be typical for some nut to plan 6 months to a year, either way, the TSA and it’s policies are at serious risk for inefficiency because they somewhat behind in whatever humiliating draconian measures they propose, relative to the terrorist plans.


2 posted on 12/13/2010 10:34:07 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: MamaDearest

In light of this shocking revelation, TSA has announced they will begin strip searching all white women over 65.


3 posted on 12/13/2010 10:40:20 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (TSA apologists deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. END the TSA.)
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To: Morpheus2009

That was one heck of a sentence :-)


4 posted on 12/13/2010 10:41:09 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: Morpheus2009

What does TSA have to do with the UK?


5 posted on 12/13/2010 10:42:26 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: ArmyTeach
That was one heck of a sentence :-)

What I want to know is if the mosque communicated this man as a potential threat to UK authorities. If he did, are they aware they are operating in epic failure mode? These sentences state how the man was left to "do his jihad" thing.

"It was quite serious because some of the worshippers were starting to really listen to him.

"He just stood up and stormed out. We never saw him again - but I heard he'd gone to the Islamic Society at the university and continued to preach his extremist views.

Yet somehow Abdulwahab wasn't flagged as a threat back in 2007, and was able to leave the United Kingdom and travel to the Middle East, then Sweden? Or would identifying as a threat a Muslim who was preaching jihad in mosques brand any European intelligence agency or police association that did so "a Stasi organization.

6 posted on 12/13/2010 11:07:44 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

Where do you train for four years to get results like that? What an idiot.


7 posted on 12/13/2010 11:16:36 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

Bite your tongue.


8 posted on 12/13/2010 11:20:15 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Why? If they get their doctorate we won’t have to deal with them for another 4 years...

: )


9 posted on 12/13/2010 11:25:01 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: MamaDearest

A jihadist for mad mo ... again


10 posted on 12/13/2010 11:28:33 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: kearnyirish2
Where do you train for four years to get results like that?

It's the Barbarian School (of boxcutters, swords, nasty knives, rocks, stones, underwear bombs, shoe bombs, etc.).

Most fascinating wording in the article was this: ....died from that most horrible affliction known to suicide bombers: premature detonation

11 posted on 12/13/2010 11:33:18 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

Bookmark


12 posted on 12/14/2010 12:14:03 AM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: MamaDearest

Four years of training and he totally screws up the mission? Thank goodness muzzies seem to be dumber than rhesus monkeys for the most part.


13 posted on 12/14/2010 12:15:33 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: arrogantsob

What does the UK have to do with Stockholm?


14 posted on 12/14/2010 12:20:45 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: MamaDearest

This only proves the painful fact: we (rest of the world) can no longer live with Muslims.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 12:42:13 AM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: MamaDearest

If the wife and children knew of this guy’s malicious intentions, but told no one, why aren’t they arrested for aiding a terrorist?

Forget the family loyalty crap, there are certain obligations to living in a Western country, like warning of an attack you have knowledge of.

These jerks have forfeited their citizenship.


16 posted on 12/14/2010 12:44:16 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: TigersEye
What does the UK have to do with Stockholm?

Well...not much yet, but I am sure the Swedes will insist in the UN that Britain begin cultural sensitivity courses that include anti-predetonation classes for poor muzzies.

17 posted on 12/14/2010 12:59:50 AM PST by gr8eman (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

LOL!

Alas, too true...


18 posted on 12/14/2010 1:31:36 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: kearnyirish2

My first thoughts, too. He must have ‘played hookey’ nearly every day.

It ain’t rocket science we’re talking about here.

Step 1: Buy explosives.
Step 2: Steal car.
Step 3: Put bomb in car.
Step 4: Light fuse or set timer.
Step 5: Yell “Allah Ahkbar”.
Step 6: Run like hell if you prefer your goat to 72 virgins.


19 posted on 12/14/2010 3:30:41 AM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: kearnyirish2
Where do you train for four years to get results like that? What an idiot.

EPIC FAILURE!


20 posted on 12/14/2010 3:34:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: panaxanax

Step 1: Buy explosives.
Step 2: Steal car.
Step 3: Put bomb in car.
Step 4: Light fuse or set timer.
Step 5: Yell “Allah Ahkbar”.
Step 6: Run like hell if you prefer your goat to 72 virgins.


You’re right, panaxanax - not rocket science.


21 posted on 12/14/2010 4:04:16 AM PST by GOPJ (Sharpton wants Limbaugh off the air- if you don't hate liberals yet, you're not paying attention.)
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To: MamaDearest; cripplecreek
...died from that most horrible affliction known to suicide bombers: premature detonation ...

LOL

22 posted on 12/14/2010 4:06:15 AM PST by GOPJ (Sharpton wants Limbaugh off the air- if you don't hate liberals yet, you're not paying attention.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Where do you train for four years to get results like that?

The student trainee...


23 posted on 12/14/2010 4:28:18 AM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: canuck_conservative

Exactly, and I can prove to you, here and now, that Islamic law in the UK EXPLICITLY supports, word for word, everything you just said.

You can read the fatwa here:

http://www.livingislam.org/maa/dcmm_e.html

It’s the westernized, liberalized Muslims who don’t mind the odd drink and congregate in little clubs and university fringe meetings well away from the mosque, that we have to worry about most in the UK. Reason being, they are the ones most likely to dispute ANY fatwa.

This guy in particular, was kicked out of the Luton Islamic Centre for advocating a vein of extremism which supposes that even non-combatants outside of conflict zones are fair game... and he stormed out when he had the riot act read to him over his views. The more orthodox a mosque is, the LESS likely it is to tolerate such dissent.

As much as that may sound counterintuitive, think of it this way: Whether individual Muslims agree personally with the fatwa against the killing of noncombatants or not, declaring it to be wrong from inside a mosque would be rather akin to a Catholic standing up during a service and declaring the Virgin Mary to be a false idol.

I suspect that Taimour Abdulwahab Al-Abdaly was a member of Al-Muhajiroun, a particularly nutty band of Islamists over here that are so extreme that even the mosques shun them.

So much so, that the orthodox mosques here have signed up to a fatwa “censuring the reckless against the killing of civilians” which was SPECIFICALLY drawn up to marginalise Al-Muhajiroun.

If you dispute that fatwa openly in any orthodox mosque in Britain, then you’re out of the door.

Al-Muhajiroun used to hold rallies in a town I used to live, until the BNP rallies and the local Sikhs AND the local mosques banded together and sent them packing.

According to the press here, his family didn’t know that he was planning an attack. He’d told them he was going away on business. At best they would’ve suspected he was an extremist, but if he was Al-Muhajiroun the last thing he would’ve done is shame his family in front of the whole mosque.

So it’s entirely plausible that his family had no idea whatsoever, that he was a member of an outcast apostate fringe, never mind that he was planning a terror attack.

Having said that, the mosque covered up their suspicions about the guy so if anyone is to blame, it’s them - they knew he was spouting hatred down at the university and could’ve alerted the police.


24 posted on 12/14/2010 5:07:08 AM PST by MalPearce
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